>So by using fingers instead of a stylus we're not talking about the >same use case anyway.
That's certainly not clear to me. >Are you policing this project for violations? Not at all, that's a silly idea; as I've said, I simply _am_ obligated to point out when a trademark held by my employer is being misused, and that's simply a condition of having the trademark. My credentials aren't at issue: I've got a long-standing involvement in the community, I've presented at both the Ottawa Linux Symposium and at GUADEC (of which ACCESS was a sponsor) this year, I'm on the GNOME Foundation's Advisory Board and I'm the chair of the Linux Foundation's Mobile Working Group and vice-chair of the Linux Phone Standards Forum's Architectural Working Group. I've been on this list pretty much since it existed, and as Sean can confirm, I've had a long-term interest in the project--he and I have chatted on numerous occasions, and while I'm still waiting for _my_ unit, I can hang on a while longer... Let me add that there was = interest expressed by Mickey Lauer at GUADEC week before last in using some of the "Hiker Project" components--which we have made available under an open source license--in OpenMoko, something I'd certainly encourage. Let's be clear: nobody's "violated" anything. I felt it was necessary to give a heads-up that heading too far in the direction you seem to be trying to stake out (i.e. "Graffiti _shouldn't_ be a trademark" or "We're using the term in some slightly nuanced way and claiming it's a 'different use case'") could be potentially troublesome, if the upshot of it were to wind up amounting to the creation of a "test case" of either of those notions. If, say, I _didn't_ point this out and, based on the discussion, someone started a handwriting-related project called "moko-graffiti" or something, that _would_ be troublesome. Just sayin'. I think I've pretty much made the issues clear, and there doesn't seem to be anything useful being added here. If anyone wants to delve further into this, they're welcome to email me off-list. _______________________________________________ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community