2007/8/3, [EMAIL PROTECTED] < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Thomas: > > Actually, speaking as someone who imports electronic components and > peripherals for prototype systems from the US all the time, I do know what > to expect when I import. >
Then you shouldn't be surprised. :) Importation of computer devices and peripherals to the EU is indeed both VAT > and import duty exempt - > No it isn't - it's only duty exempt, as customer (and that's what you are here), you have to pay VAT. it appears that the description of the goods, compounded with the value > statement, has led to this issue. It is indeed OpenMoko's error in not > understanding the rules and I hold them responsible for not disclosing that > fact. > Well, this is a kind of "developer hardware preview". Definitely everyone knew this fact. And imho(!) everyone should know what to expect, when he confirmed the order. When I can import USD$50,000 prototypes for computer peripheral units > without paying VAT and without paying import duty, I expect to be able to do > the same for a USD$450 prototype. > No, you can't. You import the prototypes as company - and you imported the Neo as customer (at least I guess so, because everybody else did). That's my understanding of this process, and that's how it is in germany (and in the most other EU countries). Not to get into a flame war but, for your reference, VAT is 17.5% in the > UK....and I ordered the Advanced... > My fault - had something else in mind and just estimated. And flaming was not what I intended, so sorry if it sounded like that. Have fun! > I do :) David. > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Thomas Gstädtner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* 03 August 2007 13:12 > *To:* David Prior > *Cc:* community@lists.openmoko.org > *Subject:* Re: Import Duty - I have refused my delivery. > > Well, you chose to live in the wrong country (or the wrong continent). You > should know what expects you if YOU IMPORT a device. > This is not the fault of OpenMoko (Inc.). > Also there is no duty on computing devices and mobile phones in the EU - > so I guess you are wrong. > GBP60 sounds like VAT (15.5% in UK), seems you have ordered the basic > device, so this IS VAT, no duty! > VAT is levied by your country, not by FIC/OpenMoko and if you chose to > import you WILL have to pay VAT every time - and the one you import from > doesn't have to find out for you how much it is (as it is charged by the > customs, not by the company). > > > 2007/8/3, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >: > > > > Just thought you all might like to know that OpenMoko shipments are > > attracting import duty in the United Kingdom. > > > > Despite paying USD104.99 for 'expedited' shipping, my order arrived with > > a demand for GBP57.19 in import duty. This should either be factored > > into the shipping charge or, as these devices are technically 'computer > > peripherals', described as 'computer peripherals' in order that they do not > > attract import duty. > > > > I have REFUSED my delivery and it is being returned to the depot and, > > presumably, will be returned to sender. > > > > I either want a new shipment that does not attract import duty *or* I > > want a full refund. > > > > I know these are developer releases but I would have hoped that OpenMoko > > would have sorted out the international shipping issues properly. > > > > I'm annoyed! > > > > David. > > > > ------------------------------ > > This email and any files attached are intended for the addressee and may > > contain information of a confidential nature. If you are not the intended > > recipient, be aware that this email was sent to you in error and you should > > not disclose, distribute, print, copy or make other use of this email or its > > attachments. 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