Am 23.05.2008 um 20:49 schrieb Lorn Potter:


If anyone is in the position to change that, it's we.


I don't like so sound to negative. I like most of the changes.
But i think throwing the gtk apps away and replace them by the QTopia
apps is stupid.
I would rather like to see a transition to EFL for the gtk apps.

Everything i have seen so far from qtopia apps looks bland and boring.

Qtopia is easily changed/hacked on. The source code is provided for free. You would be amazed at what some of Qtopia's customers are doing with it. It's got styles/theming, has dynamic layouting, and easy translating even for LTR
languages.

I like  to get surprised... :)

I like the qtopia plattform, as a plattform. But i don't think it's the way to build the nerdiest phone ever. Especially after so much was done
right before in a completely different way.

Qtopia AFAIK has it's own pim storage api. How would non-qt apps use them?

Qtopia pim data are stored in a sqlite database. It is not a secret, nor is it proprietary or locked down. So your application has a choice whether to use some library that can access sqlite (Qtopia has that of course), or use the
commandline interface to sqlite.

Well, that is a long time after embedded evolution data server was declared the way to go on openmoko.
And just my 2 Eurocents. I think this was a good decision.


And the gsm stuff? Does this mean we now use the qtpia gsm stack?
letting gsmd die would probably one of the better ideas. But i rather
like so see it replaced by something similar but working instead of a
set of qt apis.

What is wrong with Qtopia's gsm stack? For the most part, it works. It doesn't crash, and can send and receive sms messages. and best of all, it's already written and working. If someone wrote/'ported' a wap stack, it would even do
mms.
AFAIK it's a qt-API not a daemon, server whatever.
I assume this means the dialer app becomes part of the phone framework?

Same concerns as for the PIM stuff. This makes gui apps infrastructure.


Let's put it this way. Once I got the hardware, it took me less than week to
have Qtopia up and sending/receiving sms's and making phone calls.
I always wondered why no one took teyr code and put it into something like gsmd.
*g*

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