Hey, all, Thanks very much for the Vista/Americorps info, Susan. Good luck in Winnemucca!
On Ivy-Block, that's a formulation of kaolinite? Hmmm, that's the same stuff that Surround is made of, the wettable powder used as an organic spray for fruit trees - it is non-toxic, but works (supposedly- I've had iffy results, and it gives you white "ghost trees", sure to draw the neighbors' attention to your edible landscape...) by blocking insect and disease spoor access to fruit and leaves. So, maybe we should spray ourselves with it, too? Michael Pollan was on NPR Science Friday yesterday talking about his new book, In Defense of Food. Interesting stuff, as always, from Pollan. He didn't mention the potential of community and home gardens as a promising source of 'real' food, but they certainly are. My guess is that he's been thinking about this aspect of gardening, dirt gardener that he is at heart. http://www.sciencefriday.com/program/archives/200801043 Don http://urbanministrygarden.wordpress.com ----- Original Message ---- From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2008 9:18:17 AM Subject: Community_garden Digest, Vol 334, Issue 1 Send Community_garden mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://list.communitygarden.org/mailman/listinfo/community_garden_list.communitygarden.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Community_garden digest..." Today's Topics: 1. AmeriCorps and community gardens (Winnemucca Community Garden) 2. Re: How NOT to deal with Poison Ivy ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 3. Re: How NOT to deal with Poison Ivy (Mike McGrath) 4. Re: how NOT to deal with poison ivy (Libby J. Goldstein) 5. bees (Ken Hargesheimer) 6. in boston, 7th-9th (Abby Cocke) 7. Nominate Your Favorite Gardener! (Amy DeShon) 8. Re: how to deal with poison ivy ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 9. Re: how to deal with poison ivy (Mike McGrath) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 09:53:59 -0800 (PST) From: Winnemucca Community Garden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Community_garden] AmeriCorps and community gardens To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi there everyone, I thought I would weigh in on the AmeriCorps question (or perhaps more appropriately AmeriCrops as I often misspell it!). I am about to complete my second year as an AmeriCorps Vista volunteer with a community garden in rural northern Nevada. The Vista program has been a terrific help to our garden. As opposed to most other AmeriCorps programs, Vistas focus on building "sustainability" for a program and so are only granted for limited time periods, typically 3-5 years. There is usually no cost share required for the first 3 years. So essentially, if you are willing to complete the paperwork and provide supervision, you can get "free" workers for a few years to strengthen a particular program! The other aspect of Vista is that it is anti-poverty focused, which can be a great match for community gardens. Other AmeriCorps programs (like state, national, senior, etc.) can go on indefinitely, I believe, but there is a cost-share associated from the beginning. They also give more flexibility in terms of what the members can do. (Vista members are limited to 20% direct service with the rest being organizing volunteers, designing promotional materials, creating & leading trainings, etc.) Well that's probably more than folks wanted to know, but if anyone has any other questions, please don't hesitate to ask! AmeriCorps has been a great program to work for and with. -Susan Winnemucca Community Garden 151 W. McArthur Ave. Winnemucca, NV 89445 775.623.2333 www.WinnemuccaCommunityGarden.org ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 11:59:38 -0600 From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Community_garden] How NOT to deal with Poison Ivy To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" OK, I've got to jump in here and relate a story about poison oak. Lenny, you may do well using jewel weed ice cubes, but when my eight-year-old daughter tried to 'wash' the urishol off her arm using ice cubes (the only water we had at that picnic), she ended up SPREADING the oil and rubbing it thoroughly into her skin. The resulting rash was the densest mass of PO blisters I have ever seen, and the poor child was very miserable. My herbalist friend Adam Seller recommended masking the area with dolomite clay, which has a powerful drawing effect as it dries. I do believe that helped, but it was still weeks before she was PO free. Beki Filipello ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 13:16:38 -0500 From: "Mike McGrath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Community_garden] How NOT to deal with Poison Ivy To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original actually, the clay is to be applied BEFORE you garden or go into the woods; that's what Ivy-Block is--a suspension of kaolin clay... ---McG ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 12:59 PM Subject: Re: [Community_garden] How NOT to deal with Poison Ivy > > OK, I've got to jump in here and relate a story about poison oak. Lenny, > you may do well using jewel weed ice cubes, but when my eight-year-old > daughter tried to 'wash' the urishol off her arm using ice cubes (the > only water we had at that picnic), she ended up SPREADING the oil and > rubbing it thoroughly into her skin. The resulting rash was the densest > mass of PO blisters I have ever seen, and the poor child was very > miserable. My herbalist friend Adam Seller recommended masking the area > with dolomite clay, which has a powerful drawing effect as it dries. I > do believe that helped, but it was still weeks before she was PO free. > > Beki Filipello > > _______________________________________________ > The American Community Gardening Association listserve is only one of > ACGA's services to community gardeners. To learn more about the ACGA and > to find out how to join, please go to http://www.communitygarden.org > > To post an e-mail to the list: [email protected] > > To subscribe, unsubscribe or change your subscription: > http://list.communitygarden.org/mailman/listinfo/community_garden_list.communitygarden.org > > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2008 13:30:53 -0500 From: "Libby J. Goldstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Community_garden] how NOT to deal with poison ivy To: Mike McGrath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [email protected] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed When I was a kid, we always washed thoroughly with brown soap whenever we had been in contact with poison ivy. I suppose it removed the urishol. It worked like a dream, and most of us never got to the red or bubbly stage at all. Libby ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 13:10:07 -0600 From: "Ken Hargesheimer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Community_garden] bees To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" VANISHING OF THE BEES Wow! We receive a lot of submissions of that would like their work to be featured in Organic Bytes, but this is honestly one of the best trailers we've seen in a while. As you've probably read about previously in Organic Bytes, vast numbers of bees are literally disappearing all around the world. This movie analyzes why this mysterious phenomenon is taking place and how dramatically it could impact the world's food supply in the short term. As a note, the producers are also seeking donations to bring the movie to a wider audience. View this breath-taking trailer here: Watch: http://www.vanishingbees.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I may also have some free time Tuesday afternoon if anyone wants to meet up and talk. This is up in the air though - if you're interested, I can give you my cell #. Thanks! Abby Cocke Community Organizer Partnerships for Parks Parks & People Foundation 800 Wyman Park Drive, Ste 010 Baltimore, MD 21211 410-448-5663 x122 443-448-5895 (fax) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://list.communitygarden.org/pipermail/community_garden_list.communitygarden.org/attachments/20080104/c1dd012a/attachment.html ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 16:57:56 -0500 From: "Amy DeShon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Community_garden] Nominate Your Favorite Gardener! To: "List Serve" <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Know someone who has made an outstanding contribution to the promotion of community gardening, greening, and open spaces in your community? Nominate them for an ACGA Certificate of Recognition! The rules are few: 1) no one can be awarded twice, 2) the Community Gardener of the Year does not have to be a member, but the nominator has to be an organizational member, and 3) nominators must have permission from the candidate in order to nominate them. This is a non-financial award recognizing exceptional work in community gardening. Recipients will receive a Certificate of Recognition, mention in our annual Greening Review, a photo and paragraph about their work on our website, and a free one-year basic membership. Only 12 awards are presented each year, so please explain why your candidate is the best candidate for Community Gardener of the Year. You may explain at whatever length you?d like, but we encourage at least 3 paragraphs describing why your candidate is the most worthy. To nominate someone for the ACGA Certificate of Recognition, please request a nominations form from Vicki Garrett, Projects Coordinator at 614-645-1537 or via email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] A current ACGA organizational member must make all nominations. Completed applications must be received by ACGA at 1777 E. Broad Street, Columbus, OH 43203 by June 1, 2008. Sincerely, Amy DeShon, MPA Executive Director American Community Gardening Association (ACGA) 1777 E. Broad Street Columbus, OH 43201 1-877-ASK-ACGA Direct Line: 614-645-1537 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 22:35:59 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Community_garden] how to deal with poison ivy To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" The postexposure external-alcohol-flush protocol was developed by poison-oak expert and dermatology professor William L. Epstein, MD. One of his research interests was occupational poison oak/ivy dermatitis (he died in 2006). Here's an excerpt from an FDA newsletter: < If you've been exposed to poison ivy, oak or sumac, if possible, stay outdoors until you complete the first two steps: * First, Epstein says, cleanse exposed skin with generous amounts of isopropyl (rubbing) alcohol. (Don't return to the woods or yard the same day. Alcohol removes your skin's protection along with the urushiol and any new contact will cause the urushiol to penetrate twice as fast.) * Second, wash skin with water. (Water temperature does not matter; if you're outside, it's likely only cold water will be available.) * Third, take a regular shower with soap and warm water. Do not use soap before this point because "soap will tend to pick up some of the urushiol from the surface of the skin and move it around," says Epstein. * Clothes, shoes, tools, and anything else that may have been in contact with the urushiol should be wiped off with alcohol and water. Be sure to wear gloves or otherwise cover your hands while doing this and then discard the hand covering. > source: http://www.fda.gov/fdac/features/796_ivy.html Plain water may be less subject to misuse for some people, but whenever I've worked on projects that involved regular poison-oak contact, my workdays have lasted considerably longer than 20 minutes (minimum 4 hours). For several years, I've ended these workdays using Epstein's protocol, and have not contracted the rash. Whether you use water or alcohol, the important part is to use lots and lots, with no scrubbing or rubbing. Once you have washed your skin -- even with water -- don't go back out to the Toxicodendron patch the same day. (Or, before you go out, apply IvyBlock lotion, which is the only FDA-approved lotion for prevention, then wait 15 minutes. I haven't used it.) Severe cases of poison oak/ivy dermatitis do indeed require emergency care. On a field trip in the boonies where most of us traipsed through poison-ivy groundcovers without realizing it, only a few of us got the rash, but one person out of the 30 got a severe case with facial swelling and had to get to a hospital. Grubbing out the roots can be especially dangerous, because each time you break a little rootlet you're releasing urushiol onto your clothing, tools, or any exposed skin. I wouldn't do this unless I were one of the people who's (so far) immune -- though it's not uncommon for people to lose immunity! After exposure, Epstein said, the key is to continue to treat your skin gently. The itching can drive people out of their minds, judging from anecdotes on the lay websites devoted to poison ivy/oak. Tales of scraping off the rash or putting household chemicals or solvents on the skin abound. These sites have almost no useful information and are more interesting as anthropological documents. ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 09:18:24 -0500 From: "Mike McGrath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Community_garden] how to deal with poison ivy To: <[email protected]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Ha! Dr. Epstein was the premier source for my poison ivy articles. I met him back in '85, and he gave me one of the first test cans of Ivy-Block fresh from the factory (it was an aerosol spray back then). I interviewed him fresh every couple of years until around '97; he's the one who hammered the 'water alone' into me over and over. He said alcohol worked as well, but that there was always a better chance of getting to water first and time is off the essence. Read the poison ivy removal story I linked to earlier. He and I came up with a great system to get rid of the stuff without any skin exposure. Keep on Scratching! ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 1:35 AM Subject: Re: [Community_garden] how to deal with poison ivy > The postexposure external-alcohol-flush protocol was developed by > poison-oak expert and dermatology professor William L. Epstein, MD. > One of his research interests was occupational poison oak/ivy > dermatitis (he died in 2006). Here's an excerpt from an FDA > newsletter: > > < > If you've been exposed to poison ivy, oak or sumac, if possible, stay > outdoors until you complete the first two steps: > > * First, Epstein says, cleanse exposed skin with generous amounts of > isopropyl (rubbing) alcohol. (Don't return to the woods or yard the > same day. Alcohol removes your skin's protection along with the > urushiol and any new contact will cause the urushiol to penetrate > twice as fast.) > * Second, wash skin with water. (Water temperature does not matter; > if you're outside, it's likely only cold water will be available.) > * Third, take a regular shower with soap and warm water. Do not use > soap before this point because "soap will tend to pick up some of the > urushiol from the surface of the skin and move it around," says > Epstein. > * Clothes, shoes, tools, and anything else that may have been in > contact with the urushiol should be wiped off with alcohol and water. > Be sure to wear gloves or otherwise cover your hands while doing this > and then discard the hand covering. >> > source: http://www.fda.gov/fdac/features/796_ivy.html > > > Plain water may be less subject to misuse for some people, but > whenever I've worked on projects that involved regular poison-oak > contact, my workdays have lasted considerably longer than 20 minutes > (minimum 4 hours). For several years, I've ended these workdays using > Epstein's protocol, and have not contracted the rash. > > Whether you use water or alcohol, the important part is to use lots > and lots, with no scrubbing or rubbing. Once you have washed your > skin -- even with water -- don't go back out to the Toxicodendron > patch the same day. (Or, before you go out, apply IvyBlock lotion, > which is the only FDA-approved lotion for prevention, then wait 15 > minutes. I haven't used it.) > > Severe cases of poison oak/ivy dermatitis do indeed require emergency > care. On a field trip in the boonies where most of us traipsed > through poison-ivy groundcovers without realizing it, only a few of > us got the rash, but one person out of the 30 got a severe case with > facial swelling and had to get to a hospital. > > Grubbing out the roots can be especially dangerous, because each time > you break a little rootlet you're releasing urushiol onto your > clothing, tools, or any exposed skin. I wouldn't do this unless I > were one of the people who's (so far) immune -- though it's not > uncommon for people to lose immunity! > > After exposure, Epstein said, the key is to continue to treat your skin > gently. > The itching can drive people out of their minds, judging from > anecdotes on the lay websites devoted to poison ivy/oak. Tales of > scraping off the rash or putting household chemicals or solvents on > the skin abound. These sites have almost no useful information and > are more interesting as anthropological documents. > > _______________________________________________ > The American Community Gardening Association listserve is only one of > ACGA's services to community gardeners. To learn more about the ACGA and > to find out how to join, please go to http://www.communitygarden.org > > To post an e-mail to the list: [email protected] > > To subscribe, unsubscribe or change your subscription: > http://list.communitygarden.org/mailman/listinfo/community_garden_list.communitygarden.org > > ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ The American Community Gardening Association listserve is only one of ACGA's services to community gardeners. To learn more about the ACGA and to find out how to join, please go to http://www.communitygarden.org To post an e-mail to the list: [email protected] To subscribe, unsubscribe or change your subscription: http://list.communitygarden.org/mailman/listinfo/community_garden_list.communitygarden.org End of Community_garden Digest, Vol 334, Issue 1 ************************************************ _______________________________________________ The American Community Gardening Association listserve is only one of ACGA's services to community gardeners. To learn more about the ACGA and to find out how to join, please go to http://www.communitygarden.org To post an e-mail to the list: [email protected] To subscribe, unsubscribe or change your subscription: http://list.communitygarden.org/mailman/listinfo/community_garden_list.communitygarden.org
