I urge everyone out there thinking about using this $%#^ to actually read the
study linked to below; I'm on page 9 and am absolutely horrified. 22 chemicals
found to leach out; 5 are known carcinogens....
19 of 31 studies showed leaching from 'tire shards' to be toxic to a
variety of life forms....
and on and on....
THIS IS MADNESS.
Clearly, 'the not enough kids would die for us to be concerned' attitude in
the abstract was a forgone conclusion; this group is clearly dedicated to
passing this waste off to others.
But don't take my word--please read the doc. It's all there.
---McG
----- Original Message -----
From: Phillip Williams
To: [email protected] ; [email protected] ;
'Mike McGrath'
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 11:05 AM
Subject: Rubber Tires as Raised Beds
Thanks to Diana for the informative link to the EPA. Lots of really good
stuff there.
The following is an extensive review article on of the use of
ground rubber. (Evaluation of Health Effects of Recycled Waste Tires in
Playground and Track Products)
http://www.ciwmb.ca.gov/Publications/default.asp?pubid=1206
I finally managed to wade through the 147 page report (including the results
of the original studies) issued by the California Integrated Waste Management
Board. Tires are definitely ugly, but no one can seem to find where even eating
them (in small amounts) is a problem. I realize that a number of people on this
list are very serious ideologues, but we all need to keep an open mind for
nontraditional approaches to our ends. Thanks to all for a lively discussion
and investigation of the facts.
Best regards,
Phil
Augusta, GA
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From: Diana Liu [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 5:38 PM
To: Phillip Williams; [email protected]; Mike McGrath
Subject: Re: [Community_garden] Rubber Tires as Raised Beds
Ok, I am not promoting this practice. I actually have serious problems
with it. Anyway, I emailed my colleague who used to work at toxic epidemiology
about this. I haven't gotten a response yet. So, I checked the US EPA
(Environmental Protection Agency). Well, I thought they protect the
environment, so may be it's a place to look. So I queried "used tires and
gardening". This shows up under Frequently Asked Questions about scrap tires.
And there is a section on "10. What are some innovative ways tires can be
recycled?" http://www.epa.gov/osw/conserve/materials/tires/science.htm Imagine
that.
I hope that you can see the picture. This is actually under the section
about benefits of recycling scrap tires. And under the picture, it says "Tire
gardens can be a simple, cost-effective way to plant a garden in urban areas,
and an environmentally-friendly way to turn a used tire into something
productive again."
I think it's some sort of lettus planted in there. Now, if the
Environmental Protection Agency thinks it's ok... what does it mean? hmmmm.
15. What are the benefits of recycling scrap tires?
Preferred management methods for municipal solid waste are waste
prevention, followed by recycling, followed by incineration for energy
recovery, and finally land disposal. For tires, retreading is a form of waste
prevention and saves valuable resources. Recycling also conserves materials.
For example, the use of ground rubber in products and in rubberized asphalt
saves new resources from being used. In cases like these, recycling makes good
economic sense.
Tire gardens can be a simple, cost-effective way to plant a garden in
urban areas, and an environmentally-friendly way to turn a used tire into
something productive again.
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Kindness in words creates confidence.
Kindness in thinking creates profoundness.
Kindness in giving creates love.
- Lao Tzu
"Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak;
courage is also what it takes to sit down and listen."
- Winston Churchill
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--- On Tue, 2/17/09, Mike McGrath <[email protected]> wrote:
From: Mike McGrath <[email protected]>
Subject: [Community_garden] Rubber Tires as Raised Beds
To: "Phillip Williams" <[email protected]>,
[email protected]
Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 2:10 PM
PS: if anyone is foolish enough (in my eyes) to do this, make sure the
providers at least pay you the fee that they would have had to pay to dispose
of them legally otherwise. (Here in PA, I believe its two bucks a tire.)
Otherwise, you're being taken for TWO rides....
---Mike McG----- Original Message ----- From: "Phillip
Williams" <[email protected]>To:
<[email protected]>Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009
4:40 PMSubject: [Community_garden] Rubber Tires as Raised Beds > > > > >
-----Original Message-----> From: Phillip Williams
[mailto:[email protected]]> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:37
PM> To: '[email protected]'> Subject: RE:
Community_garden Digest, Vol 666, Issue 1> > > > The following link has an
authoritative and extensive discussion of the > use> of raised beds including
the recycling of some types of old tires. (As > well> as other approaches. For
what it's worth; there are literally hundredsof> missives on the internet
proclaiming the value of this approach to small> raised beds. I spoke to my
local Ag Extension Service Agent and he advised> that their studies showed no
leaching of anything in anywhere near toxic> levels. If there's something wrong
with using old tires there are alot of> us in real trouble...> >
http://www.noble.org/Ag/Horticulture/RaisedBedGardening/introduction4.html> >
Best regards> > Phil> > Augusta, GA> > > > > > I came across some used tires
which I am going to use as raised beds to> > plant edibles in our community
garden. Given tires contact with toxic> > materials, is there anything I should
do before filling these beds with> > compost and planting, or is it safe to
stack the tires, fill with> > planting material, and plant.> > > > Thanks,> > >
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