Ken et al,
Establishing a scientific fact is done through an accumulation of sometimes 
contradictory data and interpretations. As more data and interpretations 
accumulate, and clear patterns appear, then contradictory data can be 
understood as inadequate methodology or random variations. As such patterns, 
and methods to understand these patterns, become more clear, then experts in a 
field can develop a consensus; thus moving the issue beyond theory to an 
established scientific fact. 

Such is the case with anthropomorphic climate change. The experts in this field 
are climatologists. When they reach a consensus, as they have in this case, 
then what we have is a scientific fact. That a handful of non-climatologists, 
retired scientists whose work is being eclipsed, and scientists who work for 
extraction industries can find some contradictory data does not negate a 
scientific fact. 

A poll performed by Peter Doran and Maggie Kendall Zimmerman at Earth and 
Environmental Sciences, University of Illinois at Chicago received replies from 
3,146 of the 10,257 polled Earth scientists. Results were analyzed globally and 
by specialization. 96.2% of climatologists who are active in climate research 
believe that mean global temperatures have risen compared to pre-1800s levels, 
and 97.4% believe that human activity is a significant factor in changing mean 
global temperatures. That is a seriously high level of consensus by the experts 
in this field. 

Thus, it is a fact, regardless of what you believe or want to be true.

Regards,Steven 




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From: Ken Hargesheimer <[email protected]>
To: Dave Smead <[email protected]>; Judith Gardner <[email protected]>; 
Community GardenNational <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, May 4, 2009 9:06:32 AM
Subject: [Community_garden] Why Gore is Green

If one does not like the message, shoot the messenger.   Unlike some, I do
my best to keep an open mind, listen to the facts and learn.

I have received two listserve reports about the temperature in the USA, as
recorded by the US government thermometers, going down over the past several
years.  Just a little but certainly not going up.

There are hundreds of scientists who do not buy into the hype.  Climate is
changing but it is not caused by humans and there is nothing we can do about
it.  No one has a right to pollute or damage the soil, air and water on the
earth and all who do should be punished.

Here is a copy of an email sent to me from a member of this listserve:

"Sorry about the lambasting you got on your ideas about climate change and
Mr. Gore's relationship to it. I went to the Atlanta Food Forward meeting in
Atlanta last weekend and met a lot of the people, including the pres. of
ACGA, and wasn't terribly surprised that I was in the great minority being a
conservative. It was loaded with fed gov employees, and that included the
pres of ACGA who is paid to set up CGs around the country on a fed pgm. It
was liberal land.

Climate change is being used as another ploy to tax people with carbon
taxation - you are absolutely right. The media controls what people think
(to those who don't do their own research and let's face it, most of the
people don't bother) and 'global warming' is the BIG THINK lately. It's junk
science. I'm not saying it's not changing, but we're at the end of a 90,000
year warming trend and next comes ice age. We've had two minor ice ages in
the last several hundred years. The Amer. Revolution was fought in one (why
else was the Potomic iced in with GW rowing across it pushing off the little
iceburgs and it was snowing), and the Dark Ages was the other one.

Those on the inside go along with the gag but are making the big bucks
because they realize people are incredibly trusting or uneducated and
believe the tube and the media as gospel. Thank you for being courageous and
fighting the stupidity. We need more of you.

So, don't despair. You aren't the only sane one out there."

Ken Hargesheimer
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