Hello, Try mixing in flowers to create an " insectorie " (sp). You will be able to atarct beneficial insects to your garden. Also, wash the aphids off with a shot of water from the garden hose. owen
> From: [email protected] > Subject: Community_garden Digest, Vol 1232, Issue 1 > To: [email protected] > Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 12:00:28 -0500 > > Send Community_garden mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://list.communitygarden.org/mailman/listinfo/community_garden_list.communitygarden.org > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Community_garden digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. A couple more useful links on soil and gardening (Guy Serbin) > 2. Re: A couple more useful links on soil and gardening > (Ken Hargesheimer) > 3. aphids and ants (Jama Crawford) > 4. Re: aphids and ants (Ken Hargesheimer) > 5. Re: A couple more useful links on soil andgardening > (Ken Hargesheimer) > 6. Re: aphids and ants (Diann Dirks) > 7. Stout's garden (Ken Hargesheimer) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 15:37:47 -0400 > From: Guy Serbin <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Community_garden] A couple more useful links on soil and > gardening > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hi, > > Here are two more goodies forwarded to me courtesy the Soil Science > Society of America: > > Garden silage and intensive gardening: > http://thenationonlineng.net/web3/business/agriculture/31706.html > > Improving soil production capacity and resiliency: > http://anrcom.msu.edu/news/article/improving_soil_production_capacity_and_resiliency > > Best regards, > Guy > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 14:57:16 -0500 > From: Ken Hargesheimer <[email protected]> > To: Guy Serbin <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Community_garden] A couple more useful links on soil and > gardening > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > You do not have to buy anything from anybody for the garden except seed. Do > three things to the soil: 1. Add organic matter 2. Add organic matter 3. > Add organic matter. > > *Organic, no-till gardening, in permanent beds, using hand tools, takes > almost no funds, increases yields, reduces labor by 50% or more, reduces > input/expenses to nearly 0, increases soil fertility every year, stops soil > erosion **[no rain water run off]**, eliminates most weed, disease and > insect problems. Can produce 12 months a year in most areas. Drip > irrigation or bucket drip irrigation [DIY] as needed. * > > * > * > > Free info on request. I teach workshops free. > > > Ken Hargesheimer > > * > * > > * * > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://list.communitygarden.org/pipermail/community_garden_list.communitygarden.org/attachments/20110325/d921d7c8/attachment.html> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 20:43:36 -0600 > From: "Jama Crawford" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: [Community_garden] aphids and ants > Message-ID: <EDD2195364964283A11A5A527194D98F@JamaPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hello friends > > We aren't gardening yet here in the Rockies, but we are already bracing for > another season of aphids. > > I read up on aphids this winter - including their cozy association with > ants. We have a lot of ants too, so I believe the two have ganged up on us, > and their numbers are swelling. > > There are a zillion ideas about how to deter aphids and ants, and some ideas > might help, but others simply aren't practical at our scale. We plant 2,000 > broccoli and it isn't possible to rub or spray each leaf, for example. > > What I haven't seen nearly enough of is discussion of soil condition. If we > amend the soil, we need to do it before planting. I did read an overly > nitrogen rich soil is part of the problem, but I hope a nitrogen starved > soil is not the aphid solution. > > I welcome your expert opinions. > > Jama Crawford > Shared Harvest Community Garden > Durango, CO > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 22:07:40 -0500 > From: Ken Hargesheimer <[email protected]> > To: Jama Crawford <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Community_garden] aphids and ants > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Organic solution: > http://www.dirtdoctor.com/organic/garden/view_question/id/758/ and > > <http://www.dirtdoctor.com/organic/garden/view_question/id/758/> > invisiblegardener.com > > Ken Hargesheimer > > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Jama Crawford <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hello friends > > > > We aren't gardening yet here in the Rockies, but we are already bracing for > > another season of aphids. > > > > I read up on aphids this winter - including their cozy association with > > ants. We have a lot of ants too, so I believe the two have ganged up on us, > > and their numbers are swelling. > > > > There are a zillion ideas about how to deter aphids and ants, and some > > ideas might help, but others simply aren't practical at our scale. We plant > > 2,000 broccoli and it isn't possible to rub or spray each leaf, for example. > > > > What I haven't seen nearly enough of is discussion of soil condition. If > > we amend the soil, we need to do it before planting. I did read an overly > > nitrogen rich soil is part of the problem, but I hope a nitrogen starved > > soil is not the aphid solution. > > > > I welcome your expert opinions. > > > > Jama Crawford > > Shared Harvest Community Garden > > Durango, CO > > > > _______________________________________________ > > The American Community Gardening Association listserve is only one of > > ACGA's services to community gardeners. To learn more about the ACGA and to > > find out how to join, please go to http://www.communitygarden.org > > > > To post an e-mail to the list: [email protected] > > > > To subscribe, unsubscribe or change your subscription: > > http://list.communitygarden.org/mailman/listinfo/community_garden_list.communitygarden.org > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://list.communitygarden.org/pipermail/community_garden_list.communitygarden.org/attachments/20110325/689de508/attachment.html> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 07:39:22 -0500 > From: Ken Hargesheimer <[email protected]> > To: Judith Hainaut <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Community_garden] A couple more useful links on soil > andgardening > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Everyone should read Stout's books and see her video. It is available from > Bountiful Gardens. They tell how wonderful no-till is and then state that > they double dig????? Many years ago, I took their 3-day course and 3 years > later went no-till. > > If legal to reproduce, I have a copy. > > Ken H > > On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 4:38 AM, Judith Hainaut <[email protected]>wrote: > > > And I can confirm Ken's advice. I've been using mulch and no-till since > > the late sixties when I discovered Organic Gardening Magazine and started > > reading Ruth Stout's articles and books on the subject. It works. It > > really works. I now manage a 5,000 sq. ft. community garden going into its > > fifth season. It was started on hard clay with turf grass growing on it > > using cardboard and mulch. Leaves from the city are added to the beds every > > fall and it has never been tilled. It's a beautiful, fruitful garden. And > > I have friends who have sand and have advised them to do the same. They've > > been very successful as well. I think it will work almost anywhere. > > Judith Hainaut > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://list.communitygarden.org/pipermail/community_garden_list.communitygarden.org/attachments/20110326/83f7592c/attachment.html> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 09:40:16 -0400 > From: "Diann Dirks" <[email protected]> > To: "Jama Crawford" <[email protected]>, > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Community_garden] aphids and ants > Message-ID: <71E2391A5B2F49B696A0BD3042F16F1F@LorenPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=response > > Hi Jama, > Nasturtiums attract aphids. They are considered a 'sacrificial' plant > because you put them near where you expect aphids and the nasturtiums > attract the aphids. When the aphids are overrun with aphids, stuff them in a > plastic bag and plant some more babies. > > If you have ants you can try spreading diatomaceous earth around the hills. > This usually makes them move and a lot of them are wiped out. But you can > try just the nasturtiums first because the ants are herding the aphids for > food. > > Perhaps you can also try not putting so many attractive plants like broccoli > together - spread them out between other non-attracting plants. Using > mono-crops of rows and rows of the same plant is like advertising to the > bugs "Walmart for bugs" because they see it as a tremendous resource with no > hinderances. I suggest you try to confuse them by interplanting them with > other members of their 'guild' - a permaculture design designation for > groups of plants that work well together as companions. For example, > interplant onions and garlic in sections around the garden or as borders, > marigold and other flowers that disuade the bugs. Do a little research on > ant un-friendly plants. Or plant peonies which can't bloom without ants and > use the little critters to help you. > > http://www.manataka.org/page1949.html > http://www.getipm.com/thebestcontrol/bugstop/control_ant.htm > Best, > Diann Dirks > Certified Permaculture Designer > The Garden Lady > Auburn CG, Ga. > 678 261-8141 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jama Crawford" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 10:43 PM > Subject: [Community_garden] aphids and ants > > > > Hello friends > > > > We aren't gardening yet here in the Rockies, but we are already bracing > > for another season of aphids. > > > > I read up on aphids this winter - including their cozy association with > > ants. We have a lot of ants too, so I believe the two have ganged up on > > us, and their numbers are swelling. > > > > There are a zillion ideas about how to deter aphids and ants, and some > > ideas might help, but others simply aren't practical at our scale. We > > plant 2,000 broccoli and it isn't possible to rub or spray each leaf, for > > example. > > > > What I haven't seen nearly enough of is discussion of soil condition. If > > we amend the soil, we need to do it before planting. I did read an overly > > nitrogen rich soil is part of the problem, but I hope a nitrogen starved > > soil is not the aphid solution. > > > > I welcome your expert opinions. > > > > Jama Crawford > > Shared Harvest Community Garden > > Durango, CO > > > > _______________________________________________ > > The American Community Gardening Association listserve is only one of > > ACGA's services to community gardeners. To learn more about the ACGA and > > to find out how to join, please go to http://www.communitygarden.org > > > > To post an e-mail to the list: [email protected] > > > > To subscribe, unsubscribe or change your subscription: > > http://list.communitygarden.org/mailman/listinfo/community_garden_list.communitygarden.org > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 09:57:21 -0500 > From: Ken Hargesheimer <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Community_garden] Stout's garden > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I just learned that it is on youtube. Therefore, I assume that I can offer > copies. > > I have a dvd with: > > Stout's Garden > > Close To Nature Garden > > Labrando El Futuro > > If you [in USA] want a copy, mail $2 [my actual cost not including my > expensive time] to: > > Ken Hargesheimer > Box 1901 > Lubbock TX 79408-1901 > > Anyone outside the USA, send US$3 > > P. 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