Such things are not a part of organic gardening,  Do not confuse organic
chemistry with gardening.  The standards were set in the 1940's by Rodale. 
Ray Schutte

"Life is a Good Idea"   Nikki Giovanni
President P-Patch Trust
Advocate for Community Gardens in Seattle
www.ppatchtrust.org



-----Original Message-----
From: Guy Serbin [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 4:21 PM
To: Ken Hargesheimer
Cc: Diann Dirks; Ray Schutte; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Community_garden] organic vs chemical

As a scientist and as someone who spent many years in Jewish day
school I am going to have to respond to this one.  The Nazis used
Zyklon-B, a trade name for hydrogen cyanide (HCN), to murder Jews,
gypsies, and others in the gas chambers.  HCN was not used for
agricultural fumigation because of its extreme toxicity.  While Nazi
Germany did develop organophosphate-based chemical warfare agents,
those were more for battlefield use and weren't used for the majority
of killing (though I am sure they murdered a fair share of people
testing it).  During and after WWII and thereafter the majority of
pesticides utilized DDT, considered relatively nontoxic to humans.
However, studies showed that DDT could harm endangered birds,
including bald eagles, so their use was phased out in developed
countries.  Currently the most common pesticides in use are
organophosphate-based and are in the same chemical class as nerve gas
agents, and these are harmful to humans- recent studies have
attributed ADHD to pesticide use, and I am apt to believe such studies
as organophosphates disrupt neural functions.

Best regards,
Guy

On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Ken Hargesheimer <[email protected]>
wrote:
> I realized one time that after WWII, the German chemical companies had
> products used to kill Jews and gypsies and had lost their market.   They
> found a market.  I actually read that a few years ago.
> There is no reason to ever use a  chemical in the home, in the garden or
on
> the farm.  There is always an organic solution if one wants it.
>  www.dirtdoctor.com and http://invisiblegardener.com/    The best solution
> to gardening problems is healthy soil.
> Ken Hargesheimer
>
>
>
>


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