I think you may have experienced Clopyralid.
http://www.puyallup.wsu.edu/soilmgmt/Clopyralid.htmf   It is a pesticide
that does not break down even in hot compost.  This serves a classic example
of the need to check out the source of all your organic sources.
  


Ray Schutte

"Life is a Good Idea"   Nikki Giovanni
President P-Patch Trust
Advocate for Community Gardens in Seattle
www.ppatchtrust.org



-----Original Message-----
From: Pohl-Kosbau, Leslie [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 1:44 PM
To: 'Ken Hargesheimer'; Ray Schutte
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [Community_garden] organic vs chemical

Last year we had problems with tomatoes and beans in one particular
community garden, in just a few plots. There was stunting and leaf and stem
curling. There was no other topical damage on plants nearby in some cases.
What it turned out to be was the effects from herbicide used in alfalfa
grown hundreds of miles away, but fed to local rabbits in pellets. The
rabbit manure was used in the garden and the chemical persisted from the
feed through the animal and into the manure.

The correction was using repeated legume cover cropping, removal, and then
plenty of leaves to compost. We shall see if all is well this year.

This was the first time we had encountered this problem in 36 years of
community gardening.


Leslie Pohl-Kosbau
Portland Community Gardens
Portland, Oregon
 

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ken
Hargesheimer
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 12:14 PM
To: Ray Schutte
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: [Community_garden] organic vs chemical

Several years ago, I have a tomato plant dying. Never seen leaves do what
they were doing. I took the stem/leaves to the ag experiment station to the
plant experts.  He studied it and studied it and he he did not know.

The following year, same problem.  I put the whole plant in my pickup and
took it to him.  He called in another guy.  They studied and studied.
Finally, they said that it was their belief that it is dying due to drift
from cotton field spraying.  I live 5 miles from the nearest field.  They
said that is our opinion.

Some years ago, Maine was thinking about a law that if any chemicals were
found on or in an organic vegetable, it could not be classified as organic.
 They were told that if they passed that rule, it would close down every
organic farmer in Maine.  Why?  DRIFT
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