Só o OP ainda não se manifestou :)

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2010/1/19 Leonardo F. Borba <[email protected]>

> apesar de achar que das listas de exercicios para o projeto final foi um
> salto muitissimo grande, eu não tenho do que reclamar, por que como foi dito
> acima, eh interessante ter que correr atras das coisas!
>
> eu concordo com o marcus quando o assunto foi a modelagem do programa,
> deveria ter sido melhor exemplificada! talvez ateh mesmo com projetos de
> periodos anteriores, fica a sugestao.
>
> 2010/1/18 Peter P. Lupo <[email protected]>
>
> Quando o Zaedy entrou foi meu primeiro ano na monitoria... eu era monitor
>> por bolsa. Depois durante o ano de crédito dele eu fiz outro ano de bolsa.
>> Ele realmente já chegou sabendo bastante coisa e a ajuda dele na monitoria
>> foi excelente.
>>
>> :¬)
>>
>>
>> Peter P. Lupo
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>>
>>
>> 2010/1/18 Bruno Lírio <[email protected]>
>>
>>> Hmm... muito bom!
>>>
>>> Abçs!
>>>
>>>
>>> 2010/1/18 Zaedy Sayão <[email protected]>
>>>
>>>> Eu passei pra UNIRIO e depois no outro ano passei pra UFRJ.
>>>>
>>>> Cursei 1 periodo e meio na UNIRIO, mas depois q passei pra UFRJ, fui pra
>>>> la e nem fiz equivalencia de nenhuma materia nao, fiz todas novamente.
>>>>
>>>> Eu fiz comp2 sim (passei com 10 =P), fui monitor 1 ano por credito e
>>>> depois 1 ano por bolsa e agora virei honorario igual ao Peter.
>>>>
>>>> 2010 vai ser meu quarto ano envolvido com comp2.....hehe
>>>>
>>>> Mas java foi a primeira linguagem q aprendi, tirando pascal....hehe
>>>>
>>>> Eu fiz um curso de java aos 15 anos, entao quando entrei na facul ja
>>>> sabia algumas coisas.
>>>>
>>>> []'s
>>>>
>>>> 2010/1/18 Bruno Lírio <[email protected]>
>>>>
>>>> Perai Zaedy, você fez o comp2? você faz Unirio ou transferiu pra UFRJ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2010/1/18 Zaedy Sayão <[email protected]>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Mas eh assim mesmo.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nao tem como cobrir tudo e tudo q eh coberto nao tem como cobrir num
>>>>>> nivel absurdo de profundidade.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Um dos objs do projeto final eh q vcs aprendam coisas sozinhos mesmo.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> []'s
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2010/1/18 Marcus Leopoldino <[email protected]>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Respondendo ao Zaedy, acho as três coisas,
>>>>>>> a última lista foi fácil, pq aprender a mexer no eclipse é bem mais
>>>>>>> fácil q aprender java, rs, mas mesmo assim foi importante.
>>>>>>> Acho q deveria ter tido mais listas mesmo, p cobrir outros assuntos,
>>>>>>> aí, o projeto final, q eu achei bem difícil, talvez ficasse mais fácil.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Aí toca em outro assunto tbm, achei q alguns tópicos que foram
>>>>>>> essenciais pro trabalho foram muito pouco vistos em sala, 
>>>>>>> principalmente o
>>>>>>> jeito certo de fazer a modelagem MVC.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> abs
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> marcus
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2010/1/18 Zaedy Sayão <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Vc acha q a ultima lista foi superficial demais ou q deveria ter
>>>>>>>> mais uma lista cobrindo os ultimos assuntos ou q o projeto final q foi
>>>>>>>> dificil?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> []'s
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2010/1/18 Marcus Leopoldino <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ótimo, vou dar minha opinião também:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> acho que as aulas no laboratório deveriam ser mais práticas, com
>>>>>>>>> mais exercícios, afinal, é praticando que a gente aprende.
>>>>>>>>> Senti falta disso com os últimos assuntos da disciplina, pois não
>>>>>>>>> sabia muito bem como experimentar aquilo no ecipse, p ex. Aí, da 
>>>>>>>>> última
>>>>>>>>> lista de exercícios pro trabalho final foi um salto muito grande.
>>>>>>>>> acho q é isso
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> abraço
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Marcus
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2010/1/18 Zaedy Sayão <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nao so eh permitido como sempre pedimos pros alunos darem um
>>>>>>>>>> feedback pra gente.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Vc nao precisa se preocupar quanto a criterio de avaliacao. Nesse
>>>>>>>>>> ponto (claro q vc nao espera q diga o contrario, mas realmente eh 
>>>>>>>>>> verdade)
>>>>>>>>>> os monitores e o professor sao bem isentos, ate pq sua nota ja deve 
>>>>>>>>>> ter sido
>>>>>>>>>> lancada =P
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> De sua opiniao, mostrando pontes fortes e fracos, dizendo o q
>>>>>>>>>> melhorar e afins. So assim o curso pode melhorar, escutando quem ja 
>>>>>>>>>> fez.
>>>>>>>>>> Ninguem melhor pra falar sobre o curso do q os alunos :)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> []'s
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  2010/1/18 Eduardo Neves <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Então,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> se eu fosse permitido (e não fosse alterar minha nota =P) eu
>>>>>>>>>>> gostaria de dar algumas opiniões sobre a forma como foi abordada a 
>>>>>>>>>>> matéria
>>>>>>>>>>> de comp2 no período passado.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Grato,
>>>>>>>>>>> Eduardo Neves
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