hehehehe não é OP de operador, é OP de Original Poster.

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ttc

2010/1/19 Peter P. Lupo <[email protected]>

> OP? FGS! Vc acha que ainda tem alguém aqui que sabe o que é um @OP? :-P
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> Abraço
>
>
> Peter P. Lupo
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> 2010/1/19 Carlos Lopes <[email protected]>
>
> Só o OP ainda não se manifestou :)
>>
>> [s]
>> ttc
>>
>> 2010/1/19 Leonardo F. Borba <[email protected]>
>>
>> apesar de achar que das listas de exercicios para o projeto final foi um
>>> salto muitissimo grande, eu não tenho do que reclamar, por que como foi dito
>>> acima, eh interessante ter que correr atras das coisas!
>>>
>>> eu concordo com o marcus quando o assunto foi a modelagem do programa,
>>> deveria ter sido melhor exemplificada! talvez ateh mesmo com projetos de
>>> periodos anteriores, fica a sugestao.
>>>
>>> 2010/1/18 Peter P. Lupo <[email protected]>
>>>
>>> Quando o Zaedy entrou foi meu primeiro ano na monitoria... eu era monitor
>>>> por bolsa. Depois durante o ano de crédito dele eu fiz outro ano de bolsa.
>>>> Ele realmente já chegou sabendo bastante coisa e a ajuda dele na monitoria
>>>> foi excelente.
>>>>
>>>> :¬)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Peter P. Lupo
>>>> MPS.BR Authorized Implementation Practitioner
>>>> Certified ScrumMaster
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2010/1/18 Bruno Lírio <[email protected]>
>>>>
>>>>> Hmm... muito bom!
>>>>>
>>>>> Abçs!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2010/1/18 Zaedy Sayão <[email protected]>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Eu passei pra UNIRIO e depois no outro ano passei pra UFRJ.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cursei 1 periodo e meio na UNIRIO, mas depois q passei pra UFRJ, fui
>>>>>> pra la e nem fiz equivalencia de nenhuma materia nao, fiz todas 
>>>>>> novamente.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Eu fiz comp2 sim (passei com 10 =P), fui monitor 1 ano por credito e
>>>>>> depois 1 ano por bolsa e agora virei honorario igual ao Peter.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2010 vai ser meu quarto ano envolvido com comp2.....hehe
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mas java foi a primeira linguagem q aprendi, tirando pascal....hehe
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Eu fiz um curso de java aos 15 anos, entao quando entrei na facul ja
>>>>>> sabia algumas coisas.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> []'s
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2010/1/18 Bruno Lírio <[email protected]>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Perai Zaedy, você fez o comp2? você faz Unirio ou transferiu pra UFRJ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2010/1/18 Zaedy Sayão <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mas eh assim mesmo.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nao tem como cobrir tudo e tudo q eh coberto nao tem como cobrir num
>>>>>>>> nivel absurdo de profundidade.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Um dos objs do projeto final eh q vcs aprendam coisas sozinhos
>>>>>>>> mesmo.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> []'s
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2010/1/18 Marcus Leopoldino <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Respondendo ao Zaedy, acho as três coisas,
>>>>>>>>> a última lista foi fácil, pq aprender a mexer no eclipse é bem mais
>>>>>>>>> fácil q aprender java, rs, mas mesmo assim foi importante.
>>>>>>>>> Acho q deveria ter tido mais listas mesmo, p cobrir outros
>>>>>>>>> assuntos, aí, o projeto final, q eu achei bem difícil, talvez ficasse 
>>>>>>>>> mais
>>>>>>>>> fácil.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Aí toca em outro assunto tbm, achei q alguns tópicos que foram
>>>>>>>>> essenciais pro trabalho foram muito pouco vistos em sala, 
>>>>>>>>> principalmente o
>>>>>>>>> jeito certo de fazer a modelagem MVC.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> abs
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> marcus
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2010/1/18 Zaedy Sayão <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Vc acha q a ultima lista foi superficial demais ou q deveria ter
>>>>>>>>>> mais uma lista cobrindo os ultimos assuntos ou q o projeto final q 
>>>>>>>>>> foi
>>>>>>>>>> dificil?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> []'s
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2010/1/18 Marcus Leopoldino <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ótimo, vou dar minha opinião também:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> acho que as aulas no laboratório deveriam ser mais práticas, com
>>>>>>>>>>> mais exercícios, afinal, é praticando que a gente aprende.
>>>>>>>>>>> Senti falta disso com os últimos assuntos da disciplina, pois não
>>>>>>>>>>> sabia muito bem como experimentar aquilo no ecipse, p ex. Aí, da 
>>>>>>>>>>> última
>>>>>>>>>>> lista de exercícios pro trabalho final foi um salto muito grande.
>>>>>>>>>>> acho q é isso
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> abraço
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Marcus
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/1/18 Zaedy Sayão <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Nao so eh permitido como sempre pedimos pros alunos darem um
>>>>>>>>>>>> feedback pra gente.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Vc nao precisa se preocupar quanto a criterio de avaliacao.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Nesse ponto (claro q vc nao espera q diga o contrario, mas 
>>>>>>>>>>>> realmente eh
>>>>>>>>>>>> verdade) os monitores e o professor sao bem isentos, ate pq sua 
>>>>>>>>>>>> nota ja deve
>>>>>>>>>>>> ter sido lancada =P
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> De sua opiniao, mostrando pontes fortes e fracos, dizendo o q
>>>>>>>>>>>> melhorar e afins. So assim o curso pode melhorar, escutando quem 
>>>>>>>>>>>> ja fez.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ninguem melhor pra falar sobre o curso do q os alunos :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> []'s
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  2010/1/18 Eduardo Neves <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Então,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> se eu fosse permitido (e não fosse alterar minha nota =P) eu
>>>>>>>>>>>>> gostaria de dar algumas opiniões sobre a forma como foi abordada 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a matéria
>>>>>>>>>>>>> de comp2 no período passado.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Grato,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Eduardo Neves
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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