> OK. I'm just confused then. If the mouse and pointer don't constitute user > interface then we have a semantics problem. What do you mean by "User > Interface"?
I'm talking about the design of the user interface. Not the implementation. The screwed up scheduler that made the pointer jerky is the implementation. The fact that you can access ANY user interface control through the mouse or the keyboard is design. > You talk about the keyboard, but if there was ONE thing I always > thought the Mac did properly, it was to incorporate consistent keyboard > commands that worked intuitively in every application that followed Apple's > guidelines Apple has done a MUCH better job than Microsoft in getting application developers to follow their guidelines, yes. Microsoft didn't even follow their own (and, of course, neither does Apple any more... metal Finder, Steve, what's up with that?), yes. But Microsoft's guidelines really were better. > (after all they came built into the ROM toolbox) across the board > from 1984 on -- I am constantly amazed that key commands I use under System > 1.0 work the same under OSX. For my money the Mac keyboard always traveled > first class. Windows on OTOH was always a confusing jumble of right and left > mouse clicks, Not for applications that followed the guidelines. Left click was ALWAYS select, right click was ALWAYS menu. > CTRL, ALT, SHIFT, CMND, FUNCTION and letter key combos that > changed from application to application (and even WITHIN the application!). Um, Apple is at least as bad about this. They have more meta-keys and as many special cases as Windows, and often hide "expert" settings so you can only see them if you hit command or option (inconsistently) when you click on a menu or open a window. Shift select is supposed to be extend (same as in Windows), Command select is supposed to toggle the selection. Except that in finder shift select sometimes does the same as command select. What cmd-click and opt-click do vary from application to application, even Apple applications. But in Windows, there's no more than half a dozen alt-key and ctrl-key options to learn, and while there's a bunch of CTRL ALT SHIFT things (there's no CMD or FUNCTION key in Windows, by the way, CMD is mac-only and FUNCTION is a laptop hardware abomination that infests both Windows and Macs) you don't NEED them to actually do stuff. For compliant apps, you can ALWAYS get to and operate any control on the original Windows GUI with alt tab space return and the arrow keys. -- Compact Macs is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/>. Support Low End Mac <http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html> Compact Macs list info: <http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml> --> AOL users, remove "mailto:"; Send list messages to: <mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com> To unsubscribe, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For digest mode, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subscription questions: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Archive:<http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/> --------------------------------------------------------------- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---------------------------------------------------------------
