Mike Kupfer wrote:
> jek3> I think the concept of CCD is simply bad.  We should not be
> jek3> providing a recompilation and packaging service. We should be
> jek3> providing assistance to the ultimate code maintainers to provide
> jek3> Solaris "packages" just like they provide RPMs (or whatever) for
> jek3> Linux. Let's turn our "recompile" junkies into "Solaris Packaging
> jek3> Evangelists" (easier said than done - different skill set - but
> jek3> hopefully you get the idea).
>
> The upstream maintainers will need Solaris boxes (SPARC and x86) in
> order to produce Solaris packages.  I'm skeptical that they will be
> enthusiastic about this.
>   
Humm,,...

I'm sending this mail from a fairly small box which can boot Solaris, 2 
flavors
of Windows and 8 (and rising) versions of Linux.  I don't see x86 
hardware as
much of an issue.

I understand the sparc issue.  Perhaps Sun could do something useful 
with the
"trade-in" boxes we are getting, or something like that.

One concept discussed was to have a machine farm under OpenSolaris
auspicies.  Probably not as simple as it sounds (to prevent abuse), but
certainly possible.
> jek3> Second, there is an unavoidable latency introduced by placing a
> jek3> "CCD" service in the loop.  
>
> Up through Solaris 10 the Companion had a horrible latency problem,
> because we only shipped new bits with each Solaris update release.
>
> Now it has a smaller latency, which is the time to download the latest
> upstream source, tweak local patches as needed, rebuild and sanity-test,
> then push new packages to opensolaris.org.
>   
One day beyond it being available for Linux, puts us at a disadvantage.
> jek3> The Linux distros don't have this latency.
>
> They didn't have the first one that I mentioned, but I believe they do
> have the second one.
>   
I'm not sure what "one" and "two" are here, but I see I misspoke 
anyway.  I should
have said "Linux users don't have this latency", because my point was to 
be that they
didn't need to wait for the distro to do anything.  Solaris users don't 
have that option.

They can go right to the source...
    (and ask the horse...)

- jek3

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