Mike Kupfer wrote:
> Sorry about the delayed response.  Between a vacation day on Monday, a
> miserable Tuesday where pretty much nothing worked right, and JavaOne
> yesterday, I'm still catching up on email.
>
>   
>>>>>> "jek3" == Joseph Kowalski <jek3 at sun.com> writes:
>>>>>>             
>
> jek3> One concept discussed was to have a machine farm under OpenSolaris
> jek3> auspicies.  Probably not as simple as it sounds (to prevent
> jek3> abuse), but certainly possible.  
>
> Well, we need a build farm anyway, so that external committers can build
> and test on both x86 and SPARC prior to putback.
>
> But my point (which admittedly wasn't made clearly) was that you seem to
> be asking upstream maintainers to expand their test matrix and take on
> additional administrative tasks.  If they're willing to do it, that's
> great for OpenSolaris.  And the advantage to upstream is that it gives
> their code wider reach.
>
> But it is still more work for them, and I expect that a very common
> reaction will be "if you give us OpenSolaris packages, we'll post them;
> if you give us Solaris-specific patches, we'll look at incorporating
> them."
>
> I think a more successful strategy will be for OpenSolaris community
> members to get involved with the upstream projects that they care
> about.  They can test development builds and produce packages.
>
> Which may have been what you had in mind in the first place, and I just
> didn't understand what you meant by pushing things upstream.
>
> mike
>   
I carefully didn't get into the "who" would do this development, only 
where I
believe the locus of the development should be.  I thought about both of 
these
models, but chose not to express a bias for one over the other.

I think it would be better for the same humanoid to do the same OpenSolaris
packaging and distribution work under "j-random-community.org" rather than
opensolaris.org.  I think most communities would welcome this, even if 
it only
amounts to an additional, part-time, community member.  I agree this is more
likely to happen.  The only concern I could see would be that the long-time
community members might fear an "integrate and disappear" act.  I don't 
think
*this* community (OpenSolaris) would let that happen, but I could understand
the concern.

- jek3


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