I'm always going to tend to favor longer time controls. I don't think anyone here can reasonably argue that the quality of the games goes up with faster time controls - it's just the opposite. And given a choice between lower and higher quality games, I would tend to favor higher quality games.
If longer time controls actually favor a certain type of program, then we have a choice: 1. Choose a time control that favors programs that excel at time controls that produce weaker play. 2. Choose a time control that favors programs that excel at time controls that produce stronger play. You obviously can't choose a time control that works best for any kind of program, but you certainly don't want to favor programs that can only win if they play quickly, if our goal is to encourage the development of the strongest possible programs. - Don Hideki Kato wrote: > Don Dailey: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >>> About fairness, as classical programs including GNU Go and ManyFaces >>> need about ten minutes for their best performace, why do you give >>> other (Monte Carlo) programs thirty minutes? >>> >>> >>> >> What time control do they use in serious tournaments? Do you consider >> them fair or unfair? >> > > Those settings are established earlier, ie, when we had poor pcs. As > David mentioned, we had much less cpu power and needed 30 minutes for > best performance. > > When we use almost the same method the absolute value of time setting > is not a problem. But now we have two different approaches, > classical and MC, too long time setting gives some advantage to MC > programs. > > From the view point of innovations, however, it's not to be said > unfair. When comparing performaces of several implementations of > different approaches, ie, MC and classical, one scales better for > time and the other is not, _at a moment_, it may be better to set the > time being enough for classical programs. > > -Hideki > > >> - Don >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> I argue ten or fifteen minutes setting is enough and better for >>> many developers than thirty minutes. >>> >>> -Hideki >>> >>> >>> >>>> -Jeff >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> computer-go mailing list >>>> computer-go@computer-go.org >>>> http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kato) >>> _______________________________________________ >>> computer-go mailing list >>> computer-go@computer-go.org >>> http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> computer-go mailing list >> computer-go@computer-go.org >> http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ >> > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kato) > _______________________________________________ > computer-go mailing list > computer-go@computer-go.org > http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ > > _______________________________________________ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
