Hi Álvaro, I've done things like that, except I didn't use games by strong computer opponents (none existed at the time), so just human amateur games. In my experience the critical part is in learning about life & death. Once you have that, estimating ownership is fairly easy, asymptotically reaching near 100% prediction accuracy toward the end of the game. See the following papers for more details:
http://erikvanderwerf.tengen.nl/pubdown/learning_to_score_extended.pdf http://erikvanderwerf.tengen.nl/pubdown/learningLifeandDeath.pdf http://erikvanderwerf.tengen.nl/pubdown/predicting_territory.pdf or just read the second half of my PhD thesis :) http://erikvanderwerf.tengen.nl/pubdown/thesis_erikvanderwerf.pdf BTW it's great to see this list come back from the dead. Thanks Petr & Michael! Best, Erik On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 4:43 PM, Álvaro Begué <alvaro.be...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > There are things a CNN could probably do well, if only we had the right > database to train it. I have in mind these two possibilities: > * using a CNN as an evaluation function, > * using a CNN to estimate "ownership" for each point (i.e., a number > between -1 and 1 that is an estimate of who is going to end up scoring it). > > So we need a large set of positions labelled with a final score for the game > and who ended up scoring each point. > > I believe the right database to use for this purpose would consist of > positions from games played by strong computer opponents which play to > maximize score and which play to the bitter end, passing only when the > opponent has no dead stones left on the board. > > I would like to know if you think this would be an interesting resource to > have, if you have any recommendations on what engine(s) to use and if you > would be willing to collaborate in creating it. Any other comments are > welcome too, of course. > > Cheers, > Álvaro. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Computer-go mailing list > Computer-go@computer-go.org > http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go _______________________________________________ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
