Just to add to the long list, for information, the Joseki tutor I use almost daily is:
http://brugo.be/ A Belgian site, but it is in English. Cheers Lukas On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 1:59 PM, djhbrown . <djhbr...@gmail.com> wrote: > thank you Robert, Petr and Michael for sharing; i have to admit i was > surprised by the number of joseki tutors out there; i vaguely remember > it was all started by smartgo, wasn't it? btw, does smartgo run > properly under wine on Linux? > > I am bemused by josekipedia's use of vox populi to vote for the > "ideal" move; in this respect, it's a human-world version of > Monte-Carlo :) PS i don't know about you, but i only want to see > which choices are good - i don't care about the bad choices, i can > make those by myself! > > just imagine if all the joseki tool tutor creators were to get > together with some usability experts and jointly produce an offline > Multivarsity [1] tutor with satnav-style voiceovers instead of text > that could be downloaded and integrated into a playing client, so > klutzes like me could learn as we do, instead of doing and learning > being separate activities, or clumsily having to flip between one > window and another (perhaps it would be easier with two screens, > keyboards and mice, one in each hand like a pianist!). > > back in the Mediaeval days, there were no schools whipping kids like > slave-sheep into mindset corrals, and youngsters learned trade skills > by serving apprenticeships in a meaningful environment, learning as > they were doing. i was one of the last lucky few, having been able to > earn the princely sum of 325 quid pa as a programming apprentice at > age 16 [aside: Marconi Research Labs Automation Division that hired me > rented me out to Radar Division (the contract holder) for 5 grand pa - > by the end of the project i was engaged on, Radar Division had made a > loss whereas Automation Division had made a profit.... but i can't > take all the credit for that! :) ] > > when i look at what has happened to the education system in the last > 30 years, i cannot but weep for the young at how capitalism and > competition forcing mother and daughter to work for the yankee dollar > has turned the school systems of the world from a service to the poor > to a disservice of servitude for all but the rich in which kids are > treated like stones on the board being played by players who only want > to beat each other at their game of trying to be number 1 on some > arbitrary ladder of arbitrary metrics derived from arbitrary marking > of arbitrary examinations on arbitrary content. > > perhaps computers can come to the rescue in education as well as in > Go, as more and more routine operations - such as choosing a joseki - > can be automated. > > [1] > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSL-TuMlQZo&index=9&list=PL4y5WtsvtduozO-9oG5nZZI8IPUD6EDif > > Addendum: edited copy of my previously posted functionality wishlist, > for consideration by tutor programmers: > > the thing about josekis is not where you start, nor even where you > step, but where you end up > > i'd love to have a joseki tutor sitting inside a game playing client which > could > assist me by offerring the following information display and > navigation functions: > > - click on last move to initiate a matchup with the tutor and start an > overlay > flip-through by spacebar of just the endpoints of the main lines of > variations starting from there, so i can see which variation would > suit the game position i am in. that way i can start to learn where > josekis end instead of just where they start and how they branch. > > the endpoints of the main lines of alternate lines can be viewed by > spacebar after navigating: > > - right/left arrows crawl forward/back along a branch > - up/down arrows jump up/down to the start of the next variation up or > down (think of the tree as being laid out sideways), regardless of > wherever you are on a branch. > > - Enter on first move of variation being shown to make its move on the > gameboard, > - esc to return to own play mode. > > i am unaware of any existing client/editor/tutor that has these > variation visualisation and > navigation buttons in just the way i have described. > > usability is inversely proportional to programmability; my suggestions > would make life > easy for users but be a bit of work for a developer. > _______________________________________________ > Computer-go mailing list > Computer-go@computer-go.org > http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
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