I'll look at the solar panel in my wife's trunk.  It is about the size
of a news paper folder over on the newstand.  It has a cord that plugs
into the cigarette lighter.  They recommend plugging it  and placing
it on the dashboard if you do not intend to use the car for several
weeks.  I wonder if that means that VW expects the battery to
discharge at a more rapid rate than most vehicles.

A solar panel was standard equipment of the 2005 Jetta.  The dealer
didn't think so until i showed them the manual.  I wonder if they need
to be shown every time?

On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:56 PM, betty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > And what about Windows users who are perpetually in the dark?
>  >
>  >> >The price for those panels is lower
>  >> >than some of the new cable/DSL/ADSL modems. Searched online and found
>  >> >one that retails at $44.99, and another for $37.95; will be much less if
>  >> >bundled with FIOS service boxes.
>  >
>  > Betty: Is this packaged in a way that will allow a DIY installation?
>
>  First time I saw photovoltaic trickle chargers for 12V batteries was at
>  a Volkswagen dealer. They had the chargers plugged into many of the cars
>  on their lot, with the PV panel on the dashboard. I'd guess they might
>  have some kind of deal from the German government where homeowners and
>  businesses are given incentives to install PV panels on their buildings
>  to generate electricity. These panels are integrated roofing, like tiles
>  [search SunSlate], not big panels bolted to the roof, as were used 20
>  years ago. Initially the equivalent cost of energy from PV was around 40
>  cents per kw hour while power companies charged 10 cents/kwh. Government
>  paid the difference to the customers. Cost has gone down to 30 cents, 20
>  cents, and is expected to reach parity within 5 years. After that the
>  electricity from PV panels will be free.
>
>  I didn't look at the brand that they were using, but I could ask the VW
>  dealer, or you could ask a dealer that uses them. I got the prices by
>  using a search engine. These chargers plug into the cigarette lighter in
>  a car. The laptop chargers were well over $200 when I looked for one
>  several years ago and are still expensive, but chargers for cell phones
>  and iPods can be found for under $40.
>
>  And, yes, the battery chargers are easy to set up. Some models are even
>  sold in the online NPR shop and many other places on the Internets.
>
>
>
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