Yeah I covered that too in the past.  I'm not arguing you are not safer on a
mac, I'm arguing the same thing Miller is verifying, macs are safer because
they are such a small portion of the market and the hackers don't spend time
going after them, not because they are coded by perfect beings up on a
mountain top.



On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 10:57 AM, David K Watson
<[email protected]>wrote:

> Speaking of intellectual honesty, facts and stuff, here is some more
> things Charlie Miller said:
>
> <http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/pwn2own-mac-hack,2254-6.html>
>
> "I usually work on a pretty old MacBook that I've upgraded the hard drive
> on. "
>
> and
>
> "For now, I'd still recommend Macs for typical users as the odds of
> something
> targeting them are so low that they might go years without seeing any
> malware,
> even though if an attacker cared to target them it would be easier for
> them."
>
> This was from Mar 2009, so its possible he's changed his mind since then,
> but I
> doubt it.  Charlie Miller focuses on Macs, but his main argument is that
> all
> commercial OSs are horribly insecure and their makers aren't doing enough
> to secure them.  When it comes down to choices though, he uses a mac
> and recommends it for typical users.  I'd guess that he'll likely continue
> to do
> so until the malware situation changes to target the Mac.  There is no sign
> of that happening anytime soon.
>
> On Mar 23, 2010, at 12:00 AM, COMPUTERGUYS-L automatic digest system wrote:
>
> > From:    mike <[email protected]>
> > Subject: Re: Apple security and Charlie Miller
> >
> > Sounds good...not true, but it sounds good if you ignore facts and stuff.
> >
> > On Mar 22, 2010 10:53 AM, "tjpa" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > On Mar 21, 2010, at 9:27 PM, mike wrote: > > That's the point...it's
> about
> > being intellectually hone...
> > That's just silly. Coding a secure OS is not magic. It is hard work. The
> > creators of BSD and OS X did the hard work. The creators of Windows
> didn't.
>
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