On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 04:43:51PM -0700, Jeremy Maitin-Shepard wrote: > On 05/25/2010 03:43 PM, John J. Foerch wrote: > >Somewhat more exciting than splitting is that it will be possible to > >decouple buffers from windows. You will be able to move buffers from > >window to window. Currently though, we have a lot of code in conkeror > >built on the assumption that a buffer is fixed in one window, so the > >overall direction of that roadmap I posted is to rewrite those parts of > >conkeror. "Internal window management" almost follows as a consequence of > >window/buffer decoupling, so the two features will evolve together. > > As I've mentioned on IRC on various occasions, my own view is that > window management should be moved _out_ of Conkeror and into the > actual window manager as much as possible, because even though given > the limitations of existing window managers, it may in fact for some > users be more convenient to have the window management implemented > inside programs (e.g. the concept of buffers, tabs, sub-windows, > etc.), ultimately it seems clear to me that having a bunch of > program-specific, incompatible window management schemes is inferior > to having a single unified system. Maybe there are some exceptions, > where a unified system just doesn't make sense, but I'd say that > simple multiplexing and splitting functionality is not such a case.
>From my point of view, internal and external window management need to coexist, because both are important. Remember that when we talk about the ideal window manager --- one which works in terms of tasks and documents --- such a wm does not yet exist, and given how fractured the wm (and OS) market is, if it ever does exist, we will still only be talking about one niche of a much larger world. I think each user configures their system with a mix of external and internal window management. On one end of the spectrum are those who want every document in its own window to the point of using one-on-one-mode in emacs. On the other end are those who want one window per application with application-level organization of splits and tabs. Between these opposites are infinite variations. Emacs impresses me because it accomodates this wide range of possibilities so well. We'll eventually be able to do similar things with Conkeror. -- John Foerch _______________________________________________ Conkeror mailing list [email protected] https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/conkeror
