I'd leave it open for another day or two.

-Grant

On Aug 10, 2010, at 2:16 PM, <karl.wri...@nokia.com> <karl.wri...@nokia.com> 
wrote:

> Shall we call a vote on the name change?  Or should we leave the floor open 
> for other proposals for a while?
> 
> Karl
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ext Grant Ingersoll [mailto:gsing...@apache.org] 
> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 2:09 PM
> To: connectors-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Project status and name
> 
> 
> On Aug 10, 2010, at 8:05 AM, <karl.wri...@nokia.com> <karl.wri...@nokia.com> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Folks,
>> 
>> Lucene Connectors Framework is currently an incubating subproject of Lucene. 
>>  The PMC has indicated that it's not thrilled with the idea of LCF being a 
>> subproject,
> 
> Minor clarification: The PMC hasn't said no at this point, but it also hasn't 
> been discussed.  Given some of the recent restructuring, I was merely 
> speculating privately to Karl that it likely would not accept it, but that is 
> not anything official.  Not that it needs to be decided now anyway.
> 
> FWIW, the Board isn't usually happy w/ PMC's that are umbrella projects, with 
> separate SVN, JIRA, etc.   See the discussions in the archives around Mahout, 
> Nutch, Lucy and Tika.  When LCF was brought into incubation, there wasn't as 
> much of a concern as there is now, so it is not that LCF did anything wrong.  
> Besides, LCF is really independent of Lucene and useful w/o connecting to 
> search and should have it's own management anyway.
> 
>> and that its status should change at some point in the future.  Note that 
>> this status change would be theoretically independent of the project name, 
>> but potentially we'd consider changing the project name at that time as well.
>> 
>> There's beginning to be a considerable amount of content floating around 
>> that talks about LCF.  If there is a possibility of a name change for this 
>> project, I'd like to open the discussion as to whether we should change the 
>> name, and if so, what to.
>> 
>> FWIW, the only other possibility I've heard mentioned so far is "Apache 
>> Connectors Framework".
> 
> I think this works well and abbreviates nicely to ACF (of course, I was the 
> one who suggested it, so I'm biased).   Note, there is no reason it can't be 
> called the Lucene Connectors Framework, but that might pigeonhole it such 
> that people think it only works with Lucene, which simply isn't true.
> 
> I agree, we should do this change sooner rather than later, if it is going to 
> be done.
> 
> -Grant

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