Hehehe... I was saying the utility would run on mandrake's servers so when
you run the updater and it gets the list from mandrake, mandrake has the
ratings for you, but you've spurred off another cool idea, a browser plug
in that hits all "ftp://" urls on a web page and reports speeds... that way
when you hit a web page that lists like 50 mirrors it takes the guesswork
out of it (too often 80% of the mirrors on any given site suck real bad or
don't work at all it seems).
-David Talbot
At 12:46 PM 6/2/00 -0700, you wrote:
>Oh god that would be a nice... little ping utility built into Mandrake
>Updater that pings the sites... <giggling like a school girl> They could
>name it MandrakeSpy :)
>
>Riyad Kalla
>Java Programmer
>Game Enthusiast
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: David Talbot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 12:30 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: [Cooker] Mandrake's Stability
>
>
>I haven't looked at the source, but if running mandrake update hits a
>mandrake server to get the list of mirrors you could give a rating to the
>ones that are indeed up to date. Mandrake could automate this process via a
>simple utility could be written that checks your mirrors to insure they've
>got the latest stuff. (And maybe even toss in a speed rating)
>
>-David Talbot
>
>At 03:08 PM 6/2/00 -0400, you wrote:
>>I believe that you are right, that "not all mirrors are created equal".
>>However, it should not be the user's problem. By "advertising" these sites
>in
>>MandrakeUpdate, Mandrake should share responsibility of making sure that
>the
>>sites maintain a "minimum standard of updatedness" since it reflects on
>>Mandrake. This could be enforced by periodically updating the offered
>mirror
>>sites or, doing as RedHat does, by having the updater go to one site that
>farms
>>out the request to a server.
>>---
>>
>>On Fri, 02 Jun 2000, you wrote:
>>> I did notice that with the update util, but that can be accredited to the
>>> fact that Redhat uses a centralized controlled repository for their
>updates
>>> ( updates.redhat.com ) while mandrake utilizes the
>Mandrake/updates/<current
>>> release number> directory on any of their FULL mirrors. So if the mirror
>>> hasn't been updated ( by the mirror admin, or his mirroring software )
>then
>>> it won't show up yet. And someitmes you might even find updates on one
>>> mirror, but not another for that reason.
>>>
>>> ( I think the following is correct as far as how its done, but please
>>> correct me if I'm wrong )
>>>
>>> Riyad Kalla
>>> Java Programmer
>>> Game Enthusiast
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Jonathan Prigot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>> Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 11:06 AM
>>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Subject: Re: [Cooker] Mandrake's Stability
>>>
>>>
>>> I used to use RedHat. Since I bought a boxed set, I could use their
>Update
>>> program (it's been a while, so I forget the exact name). It seemed like
>>> every
>>> time they released a patch/update, it would show up in their utility.
>With
>>> MandrakeUpdate, the announced security related fixes don't always show
>up. I
>>> like Mandrake a lot (even though it was the only distro to completely
>wipe
>>> out
>>> a user's hard drive due to defective hdparm settings [6.0?, 6.1?]), but I
>>> don't
>>> have quite the warm fuzzy feeling I had with RedHat.
>>> ---
>>> On Fri, 02 Jun 2000, you wrote:
>>> > Even with RedHat's more conservative approach, they've always had to
>>> > release updates as they went along to fix bugs in the released product.
>>> > So, to my mind, I can't quite see the point of slowing down. I say
>full
>>> > speed ahead. There will be bugs, but that's what MandrakeUpdate is
>for,
>>> > right?
>>> >
>>> > I'm with this ship as long as its the fastest ship on the sea. I know
>>> > bugs are inevitable no matter how slow we go, so I'm happy to tolerate
>a
>>> > few, perhaps even a few more than other distributions, as long as this
>>> > remains the fastest ship on the sea. Don't slow down, because if I see
>>> > a faster ship out there, and it doesn't appear to be sinking, I'll be
>>> > happy to jump off this ship. I've done it before, and I'll do it again
>>> > if Mandrake doesn't stay out front.
>>> >
>>> > I don't see that as happening anytime soon though. Keep up the good
>>> > work, guys. Full speed ahead...
>>> --
>>> Jonathan M. Prigot (617-278-0794)
>>> Brigham and Women's Hospital
>>> 900 Commonwealth Avenue, East
>>> Boston, MA 02215-1213
>>--
>>Jonathan M. Prigot (617-278-0794)
>>Brigham and Women's Hospital
>>900 Commonwealth Avenue, East
>>Boston, MA 02215-1213
>
>
