>>>>> "guillaume" == Guillaume Rousse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

guillaume> Ainsi parlait Juan Quintela :
>> >>>>> "olivier" == Olivier Blin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> >>
>> >> # RTC resolution
>> >> dev.rtc.max-user-freq = 1024
>> >>
>> >> Could this setting be added in default sysctl.conf ?
>> 
olivier> Thanks, but shouldn't this be the default in default security
>> level ? olivier> RTC works fine, but sysctl.conf need to be tweaked.
olivier> IMHO, the user shouldn't have to do that.
>> 
>> Problem is that in a multiuser system, if you allow the value 1024,
>> you can create a DOS if several users use that.
guillaume> I guess most multimedia applications are only usable by local user, not a 
guillaume> remote one, which means only one at a time. This should reduce DOS risks, 
no?

No.  any user can do a very small script/c program an use the whole
number of timers.  Machine is on its knees :(

guillaume> What about adding this setting only through mplayer, tvtime
guillaume> and other packages requiring it %post/%postun facilities ?

Really it is too agresive to set it _unconditionally_.


>> Default value of 64 should be enough except for single-user machines
>> running an _almost_ real time application.  And yes, for today
>> machines, mplayer is still real-time like application.
guillaume> Not sure to understand what you mean there.

That the value only make sense for single user machines, or for
machines when you trust all the users will not do something
dumb/trying to crash your server.

Only way to handle it automagically is having a option in the
installer/MCC telling something like:

- this is a mono-user system/I trust all the users

Only other easy thing that I can think is teaching msec to set it at
the most "unsecure" level.  And I am not sure that people will be
using that level at all :(

Later, Juan.

-- 
In theory, practice and theory are the same, but in practice they 
are different -- Larry McVoy

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