On Sunday 05 November 2000 14:37, Alen Salamun wrote: | > Netscape 4.x has problems with support of scalable fonts. | > it was acknoledges by people from Netscape (on XFree86 Fonts mailing | > list) Solution from their side: use Mozilla or later coming Netscape 6. | > Or try Konqueror (Kmail for mails) I attach 3 messages from XFree86 Fonts list. Pls look. | Hmmm....I had no problems on MK7.1! Maybe because I didn't use some fonts? | (Type1?) | | Bye, Alen May be. I can tell you that I spent some time digging into X-Windows font handling. It is really messy. But I needed Cyrillic support - so I did it. I use Win98 fonts now, Cyrillic displays correctly, and I get rid of other stuff (including Type 1). /See my previous mail/ By the way, Type 1 fonts coming with Mndrake are rather strange. I would recommend better to use 35 typefaces from Adobe Type Manager. These are high-quality, first-class fonts. (but have no idea how you create fonts.dir in this case. for TTF you can use ttmkfdir utility) Several years ago I used Bitstream Speedo fonts (they were some kind of soft fonts downloadable to HP LaserJet III or 4 or 5; don't remeber version; was part of printer bundle) They are also high-quality fonts, but at that moment didn't have Cyrillic support. If you think that everything is fine with Netscape - just try links below. (Konqueror is recommended to use first; you can try with Mozilla as well) -- Vadim Plessky http://kde2.newmail.ru (English) http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html (Russian) Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it! http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html
Mike Fabian wrote: > ... > But there is nothing to fix in Mozilla, this problem doesn't exist in > Mozilla, only in Netscape 4.x. Okay, I was responding to this statement: > Netscape ( >= 4.0) has what I consider a very annoying bug: scalable fonts Obviously, no more work is being done on 4.x. If it does not happen on Netscape 6.0 then then there is nothing more to do. Brian Stell _______________________________________________ Fonts mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/fonts
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Netscape ( >= 4.0) has what I consider a very annoying bug: scalable fonts >> are not treated as scalable; you have to select them (Edit->Fonts->...) >> and click on "scalable" check box. > > > when I click that, it can be scaled in the headings. but the > scaling is like streching a bitmap. I expect that the > font can be scaled without alias. There is more than one way to scale fonts. One way is "bitmap scaling" and as you noted it looks like a streched bitmap which is generally not very good looking. The "scalable" check box was added to the 4.x product to allow a user to disable this unpleasant looking scaling. (Bitmap scaled Japanese fonts look *really* bad). Since the 4.x time frame there is now a good way to scale fonts: FreeType. >> That wasn't the case in 3.* versions; and it is a bug because Netscape >> could be able to tell they are scalable (if xlsfonts report "0" as the >> size, they are scalable). > Bug or feature? A X app can tell the font is scalable but not if it is using the an unpleasant scaling method. If Netscape didn't have this "feature" and you were stuck with bitmap scaled fonts you would *really* call the lack of the "scaling" check box a serious bug. If there were a way to tell that the scaling is a "good" method (change / enhance XLFD?) then Mozilla/Netscape would do it. This is being explored. Brian Stell _______________________________________________ Fonts mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/fonts
Robert Brady wrote: > On Wed, 1 Nov 2000, Brian Stell wrote: > >> If there were a way to tell that the scaling is a "good" method (change >> / enhance XLFD?) >> then Mozilla/Netscape would do it. This is being explored. > > > I believe that if a font dir is in the fontpath as :unscaled, this means > that it will not advertise fonts in that directory as scalable. > > So, you can just asssume any -0-0- fonts are scalable, and tell your users > to fix their font path appropriatly. (Does XF86 have this right by > default?) This is a bit too course as it would affect all X apps not just Mozilla/Netscape. There is no easy way to fix all the pre-existing installations. Not every user would want to (or know how to) fiddle with their X server font path. _______________________________________________ Fonts mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/fonts
