Thanks. I had managed to get c-a-d to work, but simply by adding /etc/shutdown.allow with any old rubbish in it ! I am surprised that there is no option but to use c-a-d and no ability to call shutdown directly except as root. 'ca::ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -a -t3 -r now' is fine if you want to reboot. Replace the -r with a -h and the system duely halts instead. But tradition has it that c-a-d is for reboot, shutdown is for shutdown !!! What I would like to do is add two launch bar buttons for non root users (especially non techie ones), one to shutdown and one to re-boot. Owen I would also like to be able to click on a URL and have the dial up connection dialog appear automatically with the option to connect automatically - guess that's what we've got Window$ for :-o ;-) On Mon, 30 Oct 2000, you wrote: > On Sunday 29 October 2000 03:30 pm, OS wrote: > > > Is it really impossible for a non root user to run shutdown or init ? > > Of course not. > > > Moreover, just by simply adding the file shutdown.allow to /etc results in > > anyone being able to <CTRL><Alt><Del>, it doesn't seem to matter what's in > > it ! This is a dead give away that I do most of my work as root :-o But, > > then I guess everyone else must be, or else they have the patience to dig > > up a terminal window and su every time they want to log out !!! Great, I'll > > just give out the root password to all and sundry ;-) :-) I did read in > > some man page or other about 'authorised users'. If this is what I need to > > do I haven't found the man page that details how to do it. Would some nice > > person tell me what's what when it comes to using shutdown ? > > You have 2 basic options: > > 0. man shutdown > 1. Edit /etc/shutdown.allow and put in one entry per line for the users that > will be on the console and shut be allowed to c-a-d. For instance, mine > actually contains just one entry, and that's the username (NOT root) that I > always sign on to. > 2.edit /etc/inittab and find the foillowing entry: > ca::ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -a -t3 -r now > remove the -a option. Refer to 0. > > .../Ed > > -- > Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]