Updating an Mdk 7.2 to 8.0 system has always crashed out (tried on three different systems now) and always left the system in an unusable state. The option to update an existing ``live'' system piece-by-piece Debian style would be good, but to do this you would have to redefine a lot of packages to be less specific about what dependent packages they require. Maybe for 8.1? For example, php_pgsql doesn't _really_ need the latest, greatest postgresql (almost any version will do) but says that it does. If it were a little more decoupled, you could update Apache, PHP etc in one step, and update postgresql separately. This would also mean less thrashing around when RPM goes hunting for dependencies, and would give the administrator finer grained control (e.g. maybe they want to update PHP to get around a security issue but not PostgreSQL because the newer version breaks something critical). -- Will opens the door to success. -- Louis Pasteur