On Sat, 2002-03-02 at 22:23, Garrick Staples wrote:
> Um, 'chkconfig iptables off'?  rpm -e msec?
> 
> Or, disable firewalling in the control center (it's under security)?
> 
> 
No Garrick , I prefer to manually flush iptables, then just to make sure
bastill-netfilter stop
that opens it up like a barn door.
all this martian rubbish was not on 8.1 which worked

regards richard
> 
> On Sat, Mar 02, 2002 at 10:15:29PM +0000, richard bown alleged:
> > Hi all
> > I 've had to go back to 8.1.
> > Whatever you have done with security is a disaster.
> > 
> > Telneting in to the public interface, ie the one connected to the
> > internet,,impossible
> > no matter what, and rules are loaded to iptables, all thats eeen is
> > martin errors in the syslog.
> > 
> > I use xinetd for port redirection to another machine behind the
> > firewall.
> > 
> > this did exactly the same...martian errors, and heres the worst bit
> > afetr running for 10 hrs , all attempts to send mail and receive mail
> > got connection refused errors,
> > smtp, pop3,imap all the same, checked with the isp, 1 hr on the phone.
> > not at their end. loaded 8.1 and mail again QED
> > 
> > I dont know who is responsibe for the mandrake security MSEC and
> > whatever, I suspect gated is being used, but nothing showed on a "ps ax"
> > 
> > Whoever should realise that not every one want a system which can only
> > work one way.
> > I need to be able to telnet, ssh from anywhere in the world.
> > This is absolutely USELESS to me if I can only use it from home.
> > 
> > Xinetd redirection works well under 8.1, so does bastille-firewall
> > the same config scripts were used on 8.2, so again where is the backawrd
> > or even in this case forward compatability .
> > 
> > Ok the 3d side is good, none of the problems with the later kernels
> > on 8.1.
> > 
> > In its currrent state 8.2b3 is a TOY not a working system, and as for
> > comments like add to hosts.allow on the remote machine...should'nt
> > need to, it was fully functional before 8.2b3
> > 
> > 
> > you guys are so paranoid over security, this time you've gone far too
> > far MSEC level 99 is not required.
> > I logged into a machine in the States, Seattle, and tried telneting
> > to all the ports that are redirected...martian errors
> > 
> > tried port 22 ssh,,,martian errors
> > it did manage to return a ping.
> > I also saw tcpdump being turned on and off with ipv4 errors.
> > 
> > If any one wants something on the networking side tested no problem.
> > If the ipip tunnels had'nt functioned, 8.2 would have been off in 1/2
> > hr.
> > 
> > interfaces that are labelled as internal fuctioned, as did lo
> > external interfaces would not function.
> > Flushing iptables had no effect.
> > system in use 
> > 700MHzduron , 512M ram 10GB hd, kernels 2.4.17-19mdk & 2.4.18-2mdk..
> > 
> > In its current state 8.2 could not be released as it cant be used as a
> > server..
> > shame it looked good on the install, apart from the freeze when trying a
> > live update,
> > 
> > If a table of bug levels I'd put this one on Egyptian level
> > 
> > BR
> > Richard
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 



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