As I stated, I've seen the NULL or ^@ characters on systems that were
shutdown proper.

On Tue, 2002-04-02 at 16:39, Roger wrote:
> On Tue, 2002-04-02 at 16:40, Bryan Whitehead wrote:
> > On Tue, 2002-04-02 at 04:04, Guy Zelck wrote:
> > >
> > > You obviously haven't followed my lead : read the 'w
> > > ich is better choice ext3 or ...' thread. A lot of detail is in there.
> > > I can reproduce it any time by just doing un unclean shutdown or when I have to 
>when the system hangs. But maybe it has something to do with my SCSI card which is 
>not 100%. I'm getting closer.
> > > 
> > > Guy.
> > 
> > I should have mentioned I read the thread. We have had problems on
> > machines that shutdown cleanly.... Files end up with null's in them
> > instead of data. I can reproduce the error on basically any of our
> > machines (around 20 Dell machines with onboard scsi). The problem never
> > comes up with other FS's. (well, at least ext2) On very heavily loaded
> > machines we've had entire directories disappear. Running any of the xfs
> > tools does not restore missing directories or fix files that are full of
> > null characters.
> > 
> > If anyone would like instructions on how we trigger the problem about
> > 30% of the time (for null characters), I can give detailed instructions
> > and some scripts. It would be nice to have this resolved. We've had to
> > switch back to ext2 since the problems were discovered.
> > 
> > -- 
> > Bryan Whitehead
> > SysAdmin - JPL - Interferometry Systems and Technology
> > Phone: 818 354 2903
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> 
> I thought this problem was resolved in later releases of the XFS driver
> (>2.4.13 kernel versions).  I saw a noticable diff in stability with the
> later kernel releases.
> 
> Although, I haven't been performing unclean shutdowns here to test the
> idea, but in earlier kernel versions, this was a real annoyance since I
> would find allot of my user config files completely wiped :-(
> 
> I've yet to see this problem persist in later kernel versions, although,
> every now and then, i might come across an improperly formated config
> file starting with @@@@, but moving further down in the file reveals the
> config settings. I don't know if this is really XFS related or vim
> related for sure.
> 
> if you atleast do a alt+SysReq+S before a unclean shutdown, you should
> be safe!  this is the route of the problem/bug here. basically, the XFS
> mailling list has more indepth detail about the sync bit
> (err...whatever).
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