On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 20:26, Steffen Barszus wrote: > > Most of the people who are using Mandrake (and _not_ most of us) use > > Konqueror or Nautilus for their file browsing. Those are the ones that > > (I guess) need to be accomodated. > > I guess here you are wrong, if I did not get you false. Exactly this person > have votedt for mc haven't they ? Further the most noob people are helpless > if X crashes and there is no MC. Further a lot of win user that have used nc > in good ol' times are very familar and happy with it. mc is a must. point. > finito.
Very good points. I have to agree that command line tools should be accommodated within the main distro, for exactly the reason you specify; sometimes, stuff goes wrong, and you need to be able to do everything from the command line. (For this reason it'd be nice to have a more noob-friendly text editor, like nano, in the default install, since the best time for a noob to try and learn emacs or vim is *not* when they're stuck at the console with a non-working X). Second, it smells suspiciously like the Windows route of deprecating everything that doesn't run in the GUI, which I don't think is a good way to go. People should be encouraged to use the command line, not discouraged from it. -- adamw