On Thu, 20 Feb 2003 20:23:02 +0100, Danny Tholen wrote: > Hope this makes you feel slightly better: > On Thursday 20 February 2003 09:30, Frederic Crozat wrote: >> >> And I'm almost sure this problem is not the same as the previous one, >> since Xrender doesn't care AT ALL of encoding.. > have to admit I didn't check on the previous bug. But i think freetype2 does > care about encoding? It is just no Xrender bug.
Maybe.. I haven't enough time to investigate now.. >> A vote will NEVER convince me to add something which can break rendering, >> so don't lose your time on that.. People can vote whatever they want, if >> it means adding instability to part I maintain, I won't follow their >> votes.. Just because something is pretty don't mean it should be in.. > Well..that is sensible. But it also depends a lot on what exactly is changed > in a new freetype2. If it is bugfixes, it is perhaps safe to do. > >> >> Is it so hard to understand we can't just add any patches (or new >> features) which have not YET been released as stable, just because it >> MIGHT enhanced rendering for some people and BREAK rendering for other ?? > Hmm...AFAIK these patches have been around for a while, and it was discussed > here as well, a long time ago. Everybody agreed that it looked good and > seemed stable IIRC. > > However, I cannot remember if you gave a reason for not incorporating it back > then. No, everybody "on cooker" != everybody who will either download/buy the distro.. Please, understand we can't just add new features which might broke just because they are fancy.. I did add freetype2 support in mozilla for Mdk 9.0 and it was a HUGE mistake because some people got broken rendering and I never understood why exactly.. Freetype2 is a real "sensitive" package, because it is now used to all major toolkits to do font rendering.. This is I now have a very conservative approach regarding this package.. >> I'm tired to have to justify myself EACH time !! > Don't, and sorry if it came on a bad moment. > However, sometimes I see that you have to make a lot of noise to attract some > attention. That is certainly not true for all maintainers of main, but for > some. If you do not shout hard enough you are certain to be ignored. This is > a drawback of the current system. So, my guess is: more justifiying to come > for you:( I already justified myself on this exact subject two or three months ago.. This is why I reacted so bad.. > It comes with the job it seems, but I do not blame you for not liking it. > Actually, you are being relatively spared here on cooker-ml. How so ? I only respond to GNOME/XFT/Freetype/<add any other packages I maintain> messages.. I don't have time to read ALL cooker messages.. And I've been unable to work on anything but galaxy GTK theme for 3 weeks.. Again, sorry if my message tone was a little "enflamed" but you must understand all MandrakeSoft staff is currently under a lot of pressure, due to 9.1 release and other problems with the company that everybody already knows.. -- Frederic Crozat MandrakeSoft
