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On Thursday 06 March 2003 19:39, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 17:26, andre wrote:
> > On Thursday 06 March 2003 09:17, waschk wrote:
> > > ------- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-03-06
> > > 09:17 ------- Hey, this is no important package, it's 12 MB of stuff 
> > > that can be better used for applications.
> >
> > divide it up in essential and pretty
>
> Except none of it's essential, because the system works without it.
> No-one *needs* a screensaver, let alone hundreds of 'em.

Well, with the same logic you could as well argue, that nobody *needs* KDE or 
Gnome, since you work with plain X as well. Definitely true, but also not for 
everybody. 

The 'hundreds' of screensavers is nonsense - there are just 23 of them in 
there, some pretty "standard" - e.g. morph3d or lines. If even NT included 
them, we now remove them as redundant ... 

Moreover, the package contains some wallpapers and other things too. 

For many people a screensaver is more important than e.g. having several 
kernel versions and lots of different window managers/desktop environments 
available on CD's, since they have no idea what they are for and how to use 
them. They will just stick with the default KDE. Do not underestimate the 
power of eye candy, it is in many cases the point which sells. 

First question of my girlfriend when I upgraded her 8.2 to 9.0 was - "where is 
my favorite wallpaper ??". She does not give a damn about a lot's of stuff 
she has on the CD, but she want's a pretty desktop. How would you explain to 
her, that the upgrade made it look "worse", but "you actually do not need 
that" ? Fortunately, she knows better and spent a good time learning how to 
work with Linux (she is a nurse, for the record), but that's not the general 
case. 

Then there was an argument, that e.g. the screen burn-in is a non-issue. Look 
at Slashdot and search a bit, you will find an article pointing out exactly 
the opposite - the burn-in is the same as it always was, just is not seen so 
often, because of the screensavers and various DPMS modes used. 

I would consider this package quite essential for a desktop oriented distro, 
you should not have to go and download something as basic as a screensaver. 


Jan
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