On 9 Apr 2020, at 12:36, Richard Hill wrote:

Please see below.

Thanks and best,
Richard

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From: cooperation-wg [mailto:cooperation-wg-boun...@ripe.net] On Behalf
Of Daniel Karrenberg
Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2020 12:33
To: Gordon Lennox
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Subject: Re: [cooperation-wg] Internet 2030



On 8 Apr 2020, at 10:06, Gordon Lennox wrote:

Meanwhile this is from ETSI: …


However we read these proposals to re-invent things from the standards
politics angle, the messages RIPE should send are:

The Internet with TCP/IP protocols is the global utility for
communication these days. Any new standards, especially those tailored
to particular operational domains like mobile, must be interoperable
and
any new deployments must interoperate.

I can't resist adding that, in hindsight, it would have been better if IPv6 had been backwards compatible with IPv4.

Not only with hindsight. There was even a brief period when this was about to happen. If I remember correctly it was the major router vendors who flatly stated this would not be implementable. But my memory is not what it used to be ….


Hallway talk: the atrocious kludges that are deployed today for running
Internet over mobile are partly due to the relevant standards bodies
not
talking.

Therefore anyone proposing to do work on standards needs to at least
closely work with the IETF in the standardisation area if not work
within the IETF.

As I presume we all know, standardization is a very competitive business, and forum-shopping is a fact of life. If one SDO does not deliver what participants want, they will move to a different SDO.

Absolutely true. Therefore our task as operators should be to argue at least for cooperation and to offer operational advice.

Stay safe and healthy

Daniel

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