Hi all, I’m new to this list, but since there are also Coot users here, I think it is important to add to this topic that there are several issues with external, non-Apple displays in OS X 10.9, some of them simply won’t work. Some others — like my previous one — will require several plug/unplug cycles with some frightening sparks to connect, or get to lower resolution, or other kinds of trouble.
(One example is this trend: http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/106765/10-9-external-monitor-not-recognised-after-monitor-sleeps ) So if you use a second monitor and you’re thinking about upgrading to 10.9, be aware of that risk. I couldn’t find a list of “safe” brands of displays, I'm just lucky that the other one in the lab works. Carlos On 19 Feb 2014, at 22:03, Joseph Noel <n...@salk.edu> wrote: > Hi Phil and Bill, > > It didn't cure my disease. I can run coot. I just have to open the first coot > then open a second session. The second session behaves fine as long as the > first "frozen" one is still open. No idea what it is and it doesn't seem to > matter if a nightly build or the stable release. Something definitely changed > in my system that I didn't authorize but the ghost of Steve Jobs must have. > Joe > ______________________________________________________________________________________ > Joseph P. Noel, Ph.D. > Arthur and Julie Woodrow Chair > Investigator, Howard Hughes Medical Institute > Professor, The Jack H. Skirball Center for Chemical Biology and Proteomics > The Salk Institute for Biological Studies > 10010 North Torrey Pines Road > La Jolla, CA 92037 USA > > Phone: (858) 453-4100 extension 1442 > Cell: (858) 349-4700 > Fax: (858) 597-0855 > E-mail: n...@salk.edu > > Publications & Citations: > http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=xiL1lscAAAAJ > > Homepage Salk: http://www.salk.edu/faculty/noel.html > Homepage HHMI: http://hhmi.org/research/investigators/noel.html > ______________________________________________________________________________________ > > On Feb 19, 2014, at 4:53 AM, Phil Evans <p...@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk> wrote: > >> Is this a killer for updating to 10.9? Is it still usable with this option? >> I have my laptop plugged into an external display, but keep my laptop as a >> secondary screen. >> >> I've been holding off updating from 10.8 to 10.9, and wondering when or if I >> should do it >> >> Phil >> Î >> On 18 Feb 2014, at 22:49, William G. Scott <wgsc...@ucsc.edu> wrote: >> >>> Hi Joe: >>> >>> Thanks very much for your encouraging and kind words. >>> >>> I just had a problem today that might be related. Briefly, with 2 monitors >>> on 10.9.1, coot opens and then disappears . I don’t get the “footprints”, >>> but that might be monitor or graphics-card specific. >>> >>> In any case, the work-around (which I am not happy with) is to go into >>> System Preferences > Mission Control and uncheck the box that says >>> “Displays have separate Spaces”. Then log out and log back in again, and >>> maybe it will work. >>> >>> <Screen Shot 2014-02-18 at 2.43.47 PM.png> >>> >>> If that fixes it, this is the bug. No one wants to take responsibility: >>> >>> https://xquartz.macosforge.org/trac/ticket/817 >>> >>> >>> HTH, >>> >>> Bill >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Feb 13, 2014, at 12:14 PM, Joseph Noel <n...@salk.edu> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Bill! >>>> >>>> Don't apologize! You are doing a world of service for the community! I am >>>> running the latest and running the Maverick. One thing I found out - if I >>>> open Coot through CCP4, from Phenix or directly from an xwindow, the coot >>>> window appears but is white and if you read in anything, nothing shows up. >>>> If you then "drag" the window, it leaves behind "footprints". If, however, >>>> I leave this original Coot window open and start a second Coot session >>>> using any of the three methods, i.e. started from within ccp4i, started >>>> from within Phenix or started from an xwindow using /usr/local/bin/coot, >>>> this second session works fine - black background, can see maps and >>>> coordinates, ... >>>> >>>> Does that help in diagnosing? It must be something I am doing on my >>>> MacBook Pro running 10.9.1 and XQuartz 2.7.5. >>>> >>>> Joe >>>> ______________________________________________________________________________________ >>>> Joseph P. Noel, Ph.D. >>>> Arthur and Julie Woodrow Chair >>>> Investigator, Howard Hughes Medical Institute >>>> Professor, The Jack H. Skirball Center for Chemical Biology and Proteomics >>>> The Salk Institute for Biological Studies >>>> 10010 North Torrey Pines Road >>>> La Jolla, CA 92037 USA >>>> >>>> Phone: (858) 453-4100 extension 1442 >>>> Cell: (858) 349-4700 >>>> Fax: (858) 597-0855 >>>> E-mail: n...@salk.edu >>>> >>>> Publications & Citations: >>>> http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=xiL1lscAAAAJ >>>> >>>> Homepage Salk: http://www.salk.edu/faculty/noel.html >>>> Homepage HHMI: http://hhmi.org/research/investigators/noel.html >>>> ______________________________________________________________________________________ >>>> >>>> On Feb 13, 2014, at 7:10 AM, William G. Scott <wgsc...@ucsc.edu> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Feb 11, 2014, at 7:19 PM, Joseph Noel <n...@salk.edu> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I've started installing the latest nightly builds of Coot that Bill >>>>>> Scott maintains. They go into /usr/local/bin/coot. It will open but the >>>>>> screen is white, if you move the window around on the Mac it seems to >>>>>> duplicate and worse, if you load coordinates or a map, nothing appears. >>>>>> I must have missed something in setting it up but if anyone has a >>>>>> suggestion of something I am missing would be much appreciated. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sorry for the problems. >>>>> >>>>> Which version of OS X is it? If it is compatible, it might be worth >>>>> downloading the latest version of X11.app: >>>>> https://xquartz.macosforge.org/landing/ (It says for 10.6 or later). If >>>>> I built coot with a more recent version of X11 than you have, this might >>>>> be the problem. >>>>> >>>>> I just downloaded the latest coot nightly to check to make sure it worked >>>>> (it does on my 10.9.1 macbook air). >>>>> >>>>> — Bill >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>
