*Very* cool information. As someone who's leading the transition to
open-source and cluster-orientation  at a company of about 50 people,
finding good tools for the IT staff to use is essential. Thanks so much for
the continued feedback.

On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 6:10 AM, Steve Loughran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Khalil Honsali wrote:
>
> > Thanks Mr. Steve, and everyone..
> >
> > I actually have just 16 machines (normal P4 PCs), so in case I need to
> > do
> > things manually it takes half an hour (for example when installing
> > sun-java,
> > I had to type that 'yes' for each .bin install)
> > but for now i'm ok with pssh or just a simple custom script, however,
> > I'm
> > afraid things will get complicated soon enough...
> >
> > You said:
> > "you can automate rpm install using pure "rpm" command, and check for
> > installed artifacts yourself"
> > Could you please explain more, I understand you run the same rpm against
> > all
> > machines provided the cluster is homogeneous.
> >
> >
> 1. you can push out the same RPM files to all machines.
>
> 2. if you use rpmbuild (ant's <rpm> task does this), you can build your
> own RPMs and push them out, possibly with scp, then run ssh to install them.
> http://wiki.smartfrog.org/wiki/display/sf/RPM+Files
>
> 3. A lot of linux distros have adopted Yum
> http://wiki.smartfrog.org/wiki/display/sf/Pattern+-+Yum
>
>
> I was discussing Yum support on the Config-Management list last week,
> funnily enough
> http://lopsa.org/pipermail/config-mgmt/2008-April/000662.html
>
> Nobody likes automating it much as
>  -it doesnt provide much state information
>  -it doesnt let you roll back very easily, or fix what you want
>
> Most people in that group -the CM tool authors - prefer to automate RPM
> install/rollback themselves, so they can stay in control.
>
> Having a look at how our build.xml file manages test RPMs -that is from
> the build VMware image to a clean test image, we <scp> and then <ssh> the
> operations
>
>
>    <scp remoteToDir="${rpm.ssh.path}"
>        passphrase="${rpm.ssh.passphrase}"
>        keyfile="${rpm.ssh.keyfile}"
>        trust="${rpm.ssh.trust}"
>        verbose="${rpm.ssh.verbose}">
>      <fileset refid="rpm.upload.fileset"/>
>    </scp>
>
>
>
>  <target name="rpm-remote-install-all" depends="rpm-upload">
>    <rootssh
>        command="cd ${rpm.full.ssh.dir};rpm --upgrade --force
> ${rpm.verbosity} smartfrog-*.rpm"
>        outputProperty="rpm.result.all"/>
>    <validate-rpm-result result="${rpm.result.all}"/>
>  </target>
>
>
> The <rootssh> preset runs a remote root command
>
>    <presetdef name="rpmssh">
>      <sshexec host="${rpm.ssh.server}"
>          username="${rpm.ssh.user}"
>          passphrase="${rpm.ssh.passphrase}"
>          trust="${rpm.ssh.trust}"
>          keyfile="${rpm.ssh.keyfile}"
>          timeout="${ssh.command.timeout}"
>          />
>    </presetdef>
>
>    <presetdef name="rootssh">
>      <rpmssh
>          username="root"
>          timeout="${ssh.rpm.command.timeout}"
>          />
>    </presetdef>
>
> More troublesome is how we check for errors. No simple exit code here,
> instead I have to scan for strings in the response.
>
>    <macrodef name="validate-rpm-result">
>      <attribute name="result"/>
>      <sequential>
>        <echo>
>          @{result}
>        </echo>
>        <fail>
>          <condition>
>            <contains
>                string="@{result}"
>                substring="does not exist"/>
>          </condition>
>          The rpm contains files belonging to an unknown user.
>        </fail>
>      </sequential>
>    </macrodef>
>
> Then, once everything is installed, I do something even scarier - run lots
> of query commands and look for error strings. I do need to automate this
> better; its on my todo list and one of the things I might use as a test
> project would be automating creating custom hadoop EC2 images, something
> like
>
> -bring up the image
> -push out new RPMs and ssh keys, including JVM versions.
> -create the new AMI
> -set the AMI access rights up.
> -delete the old one.
>
> Like I said, on the todo list.
>
>
>
>
> --
> Steve Loughran                  http://www.1060.org/blogxter/publish/5
> Author: Ant in Action           http://antbook.org/
>

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