Sandy,

Correct me if I'm wrong but, if you have only two cores and you are running
your jobs in pseudo distributed mode, what is the point of having more than
2 mappers/reducers? Any number larger than 2 would make the mapper/reducer
threads serialize. That serialization would certainly be an overhead and
increase the running times. Do you get a performance increase if you run

map1 reduce1
map1 reduce2

and

map1 reduce2
map2 reduce2

in those particular orders?

-jim



On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Sandy <[email protected]> wrote:

> I'm trying to make sense of the results, but running it like this working
> at
> least a little better.
>
> map4  reduce1
> map4 reduce2
> map4 reduce4
> map4 reduce8
>
> I tried keeping the reduces constant, while varying the maps.. this results
> in an increase of running time.
>
> When I tried keeping the maps constant, and varying the reduces, I got
> something better, though when it hit something like map4 reduce4, the
> running time shoots up, even though previously it had been decreasing.
>
> This has been very helpful... though I am very curious: Is the reason one
> worked better than the other a function of the input only? Or what about
> pseudo-distibuted mode makes one way work better than the other?
>
> Thanks again!
>
> -SM
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 9:04 PM, haizhou zhao <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > As I metioned above, you should at least try like this:
> > map2 reduce1
> > map4 reduce1
> > map8 reduce1
> >
> > map4 reduce1
> > map4 reduce2
> > map4 reduce4
> >
> > instead of :
> > map2 reduce2
> > map4 reduce4
> > map8 reduce8
> >
> > 2009/3/6 Sandy <[email protected]>
> >
> > > I was trying to control the maximum number of tasks per tasktracker by
> > > using
> > > the
> > > mapred.tasktracker.tasks.maximum parameter
> > >
> > > I am interpreting your comment to mean that maybe this parameter is
> > > malformed and should read:
> > > mapred.tasktracker.map.tasks.maximum = 8
> > > mapred.tasktracker.map.tasks.maximum = 8
> > >
> > > I did that, and reran on a 428MB input, and got the same results as
> > before.
> > > I also ran it on a 3.3G dataset, and got the same pattern.
> > >
> > > I am still trying to run it on a 20 GB input. This should confirm if
> the
> > > filesystem cache thing is true.
> > >
> > > -SM
> > >
> > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Sandy <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Arun,
> > > >
> > > > How can I check the number of slots per tasktracker? Which parameter
> > > > controls that?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > -SM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Arun C Murthy <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> I assume you have only 2 map and 2 reduce slots per tasktracker -
> > which
> > > >> totals to 2 maps/reduces for you cluster. This means with more
> > > maps/reduces
> > > >> they are serialized to 2 at a time.
> > > >>
> > > >> Also, the -m is only a hint to the JobTracker, you might see
> less/more
> > > >> than the number of maps you have specified on the command line.
> > > >> The -r however is followed faithfully.
> > > >>
> > > >> Arun
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Mar 4, 2009, at 2:46 PM, Sandy wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>  Hello all,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> For the sake of benchmarking, I ran the standard hadoop wordcount
> > > example
> > > >>> on
> > > >>> an input file using 2, 4, and 8 mappers and reducers for my job.
> > > >>> In other words,  I do:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> time -p bin/hadoop jar hadoop-0.18.3-examples.jar wordcount -m 2 -r
> 2
> > > >>> sample.txt output
> > > >>> time -p bin/hadoop jar hadoop-0.18.3-examples.jar wordcount -m 4 -r
> 4
> > > >>> sample.txt output2
> > > >>> time -p bin/hadoop jar hadoop-0.18.3-examples.jar wordcount -m 8 -r
> 8
> > > >>> sample.txt output3
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Strangely enough, when this increase in mappers and reducers result
> > in
> > > >>> slower running times!
> > > >>> -On 2 mappers and reducers it ran for 40 seconds
> > > >>> on 4 mappers and reducers it ran for 60 seconds
> > > >>> on 8 mappers and reducers it ran for 90 seconds!
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Please note that the "sample.txt" file is identical in each of
> these
> > > >>> runs.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I have the following questions:
> > > >>> - Shouldn't wordcount get -faster- with additional mappers and
> > > reducers,
> > > >>> instead of slower?
> > > >>> - If it does get faster for other people, why does it become slower
> > for
> > > >>> me?
> > > >>>  I am running hadoop on psuedo-distributed mode on a single 64-bit
> > Mac
> > > >>> Pro
> > > >>> with 2 quad-core processors, 16 GB of RAM and 4 1TB HDs
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I would greatly appreciate it if someone could explain this
> behavior
> > to
> > > >>> me,
> > > >>> and tell me if I'm running this wrong. How can I change my settings
> > (if
> > > >>> at
> > > >>> all) to get wordcount running faster when i increases that number
> of
> > > maps
> > > >>> and reduces?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Thanks,
> > > >>> -SM
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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