I would love to see this, and I would love it if I didn't have to do anything about it myself except joining the service when it's ready (preferably without having to create a new account :-).
On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 9:25 PM, Nick Coghlan <ncogh...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 31 March 2018 at 06:23, Guido van Rossum <gu...@python.org> wrote: > > I've also got confirmation from Tim Abbott (ZulipChat cofounder) that > they'd > > be happy to host us and would even prioritize features they want. > > Cool - I've mainly been exposed to the Zulip community via Sumana > (who's handling project management for the Warehouse migration), and > if she's any indication, I think they'd be a wonderful group for us to > collaborate with :) > > If we were to set up a python-dev stream, then service integrations I > think we'd be interested in: > > * GitHub (naturally) > * Roundup (potentially based on the existing IRC bot) > * BuildBot (potentially based on the existing IRC bot) > > (Something worth noting is that the way that chat.zulip.org has their > own commit monitoring set up is to have a dedicated top level > "commits" stream, and then separate topics within that stream for > different repos. I suspect that approach could also work pretty well > for python.org, rather than necessarily putting everything inline in > the dev discussion stream the way we do on IRC) > > I expect we'd also want to eventually set up an IRC bridge with > python-dev, as otherwise folks joining the Zulip python-dev stream > might not find existing contributors to chat to. (While I no longer > idle on IRC during the work day the way I used to when I was working > for Red Hat, it's still the default real-time option I'd reach for if > I was having an extended back-and-forth with someone on the issue > tracker). Mentioning that also provides a chance to highlight Zulip's > stream/topic links: > https://chat.zulip.org/#narrow/stream/127-integrations/topic/IRC.20mirror > :) > > Anyway, +1 for me for running an experiment - the UX issues with IRC > are non-trivial (and some of them, like the now-unusual way it manages > user identities, are inherent to the platform), and Zulip avoids all > of the red flags that can make me nervous about introducing new tools: > > - there's a hosted service available, so it doesn't depend on > volunteers managing infrastructure > - the hosted service is bootstrapped rather than VC-funded, so the > business model doesn't demand exponential growth > - the underlying project is open source, so folks can pitch in and > help out if they're so inclined > - the data being managed isn't anything where we're concerned about > long term preservation (the way we are for code commits, tracker > issues, PEPs, and email design discussions) > > Cheers, > Nick. > > -- > Nick Coghlan | ncogh...@gmail.com | Brisbane, Australia > -- --Guido van Rossum (python.org/~guido)
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