On 12/23/2017 07:16 PM, Todd Weaver wrote:

Intel did not mislead, we told them, and continue to, that we _want_ an
ME-less design (which is their term for what we asked for). And as we
grow our leverage will grow, and our influence will grow. This is a
long-term strategy and is playing out as planned.

They will not adjust based on small quantities, but quantity =
leverage, and our influence changes as volumes grow. (e.g. $ =
influence)
You will never have that type of leverage, if google can't pull it off then no one can.

Even the NSA only got HAP, not a CPU without ME all together and the US government probably spends hundreds of millions with intel every year.

x86-64 will always have ME/PSP and it simply can't be disabled, pretending otherwise is doing a disservice to many who look to the big shots for advice and pipe dreams like that being spread to the masses are the main reason I dislike purism so much.

People will think "well gee why buy an actually-libre-right-now TALOS 2 when I can simply wait a few years when the eggheads have cracked ME and I can keep getting cheap soul-less computers" as tim said the discovery of HAP etc probably set back libre computing a decade.

I hope you are buying a TALOS 2.

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