This assumes security was a concern in the first place, which is not what I see where I live/work.
On 01/11/2018 11:27 PM, Timothy Pearson wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > What I'm more concerned about right now is something I'd term "security > apathy". We just learned 99% of the world's computers are insecure in > one way or another; security is now something that (to most people) > apparently cannot be purchased. In such an environment, the cheapest > system per unit performance always wins, even if it happens to contain > rampant abuses of privacy / backdoors. > > Probably a discussion best had over coffee, since it's largely > unfixable, but suffice it to say we're already starting to see this even > in our original customer base. > > On 01/11/2018 04:22 PM, taii...@gmx.com wrote: >> On 01/11/2018 05:05 AM, Nico Huber wrote: >> >>> you seem to be misinformed about the G505s. There is no open-source gfx >>> init for AMD (not in firmware, not in the OS), so within your require- >>> ments it's not usable as a laptop. >> I forgot to include my usual suffix mentioning that blobs are required >> for video (and power management) >> >> I believe it is still much better than the C2D laptops in terms of >> security despite the video blob as it has an IOMMU [1] and no ME/PSP. >> [1] with the high end quad core CPU option >>>> (as the previous C2D/C2Q's >>>> such as the X200 are now permanently insecure without intervention from >>>> intel apparently) >>> It depends on the software you run. Please read more about Meltdown and >>> Spectre. When you understood it, you can still start to worry. >>> >>>> At this point even a massive performance loss is better than having to >>>> throw out so much now-useless hardware. >>> Yes? and that can be accomplished without microcode updates, AFAIK. >> I was and still am under the impression that fixing both issue classes >> requires microcode updates, can you link to a better explanation? >> > > - -- > Timothy Pearson > Raptor Engineering > +1 (415) 727-8645 (direct line) > +1 (512) 690-0200 (switchboard) > https://www.raptorengineering.com > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1 > > iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJaV+TkAAoJEK+E3vEXDOFbghEH/ivQ84bm11KHSDs8+EIWSP1J > XeQvhxHlsz5ZNYA16a7QU+dWhn8vOo6es3yBmTgOPsVzu1PUgXwgX1QnfUyAzrml > 59d7TZE7p8MtgCAmsUruNgVdPgXEPK/Qh/6uUarVh8U7bRpaOEVcc2thJZCRDLQw > U4m8+Z5RudnDz9ZiPVfMKhpqSVJ+FTBzr3uCp+Mqr9CFIV3GxbwWCkoEPbo1hNrq > O+ZfCk24GseFfI8fjfpP523nARd8bX0WEUodRaw/l58+vspjGo3DyvjrWpcdJRHg > X+dg0I9CKVPt7doFh4NscPmNAhia9R8JfeTj3qCoMiFAvSHcBgb7p8Q8xitIkw0= > =gkEr > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > -- coreboot mailing list: coreboot@coreboot.org https://mail.coreboot.org/mailman/listinfo/coreboot