where are we on the docs at this point
On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 5:59 PM Timothy Pearson < [email protected]> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA256 > > For anyone wanting a more affordable development platform for POWER9, > check out the Talos II Lite: > > https://raptorcs.com/TALOSIILITE/ > > Hopefully we're getting down to a price point where coreboot development > becomes more practical (if still a bit painful)? > > Looking forward to seeing coreboot on ppc64el systems! > > On 05/29/2018 03:45 PM, Timothy Pearson wrote: > > Sorry, can't add today....it's a little over 6,000 pages of new > > documentation. Still, hardly light reading! > > > > On 05/29/2018 03:39 PM, Timothy Pearson wrote: > >> Register documentation was published today. Links to the three volumes > >> (over 7000 pages of documentation!) > > > >> > https://wiki.raptorcs.com/wiki/File:POWER9_Registers_vol1_version1.1_pub.pdf > > > >> > https://wiki.raptorcs.com/wiki/File:POWER9_Registers_vol2_version1.2_pub.pdf > > > >> > https://wiki.raptorcs.com/wiki/File:POWER9_Registers_vol3_version1.2_pub.pdf > > > >> That leaves only the PHB documentation in process at this point. Almost > >> there.... > > > >> On 05/12/2018 02:34 AM, Timothy Pearson wrote: > >>> On 05/03/2018 06:02 PM, ron minnich wrote: > > > > > >>>> On Thu, May 3, 2018 at 1:20 PM Timothy Pearson > >>>> <[email protected] <mailto: > [email protected]>> > >>>> wrote: > > > >>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >>>> Hash: SHA256 > > > >>>> I think I was being a bit pessimistic / too careful here. We're > close > >>>> to getting the docs publicly released, but that doesn't help > anyone > >>>> wanting access right now, which is why I mentioned the other > route. > >>>> IBM's committed to getting the documentation released, they're > just > >>>> making sure that what they release is actually correct for the > products > >>>> it covers. > > > >>>> It might make sense to get our "working group" together over the > next > >>>> few weeks, by which time the documentation should be available in > public > >>>> form. > > > >>>> Are you interested in joining? :-) > > > > > >>>> of course, but not until those docs are freed up. > > > > > >>> We're getting there. First manual to be released is the processor user > >>> guide. More to follow, including register documentation, in around a > week. > > > >>> Users guide: > > > >>> > https://wiki.raptorcs.com/wiki/File:POWER9_um_OpenPOWER_v20GA_09APR2018_pub.pdf > > > >>>> Context: I've been trying for 2 years now to get OPAL released under > >>>> dual gpl2 licensing with the current apache2 license, apache2 and gpl2 > >>>> are not compatible, so we'd be in a bit of a mess should we use OPAL > >>>> code in coreboot, and it would be easiest if we were able to use some > of > >>>> that code. > > > >>>> The first response from IBM was "why do you think you need coreboot?" > I > >>>> worked through that, and there was agreement in the end it ought to > >>>> happen, said agreement reached about 2 years ago. Stuff Would Happen, > I > >>>> was told. After that, silence. > > > >>> We've reignited this. It's underway. :-) > > > >>>> This is pretty much par for the course with Power. In 1990 I spent two > >>>> years getting an agreement that would allow me to .... get more > agreements. > > > >>> We've plowed through this already and are at the action point. For the > >>> most part, just let me know what you need and I'll see if we can get it > >>> published. > > > >>>> So close doesn't count. Once I see the kind of docs I need to see, not > >>>> requiring a clickwrap, and covering all aspects of every chip on your > >>>> board, I'm in: I'll order a board. Until then, I can't really do much. > > > >>> Is the NIC an issue? There are several people working on REing the > >>> hardware with some great progress [1][2], but there's really no way to > >>> get Broadcom to ever release official documentation. Everything else > on > >>> the libre-friendly non-SAS version either has docs available or we are > >>> close to getting them published. > > > >>>> Thanks for your efforts on Power! > > > >>> No problem! We still consider Power the best path forward for powerful > >>> libre systems at this point, getting really tired of the other vendors > >>> actively working against efforts to create open firmware (this includes > >>> SiFive at this point). > > > >>> Will keep you posted as we get more docs published online, but thought > >>> you and the others here might at least be interested in the users > guide. > > > >>>> ron > > > > > > > >>> [1] https://wiki.raptorcs.com/wiki/BCM5719 > >>> [2] IRC discussions on #talos-workstation > > > > > > > > - -- > Timothy Pearson > Raptor Engineering > +1 (415) 727-8645 <(415)%20727-8645> (direct line) > +1 (512) 690-0200 <(512)%20690-0200> (switchboard) > https://www.raptorengineering.com > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1 > > iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJbGdTTAAoJEK+E3vEXDOFbns4H/iIVv7ftC4Td6/jMFaxc23x4 > x0Ad24g+cgJXA6G6gzv+bw3Gr5JuFXLHnpq/SFcYCqrYXy45vjwkdxmfuU3K5mEB > g0MeztDMP9wbw2TBa2J/Ny2pC7ljVHFruyO9KzmNitpcHXnx04THydVpGhwk+cKO > g3V29HOUDxyrRvnAO4ubD6qSkds+Z++zZfiXRfU3uaNKH6NyNXYE1aBxp4XabSli > Y7JtYETNcthgr85CbKxwhdFTBHEWEHTi35yT05E9X0VM0wlEVkoJMJdkrhvLT+lK > q/jTfbemobNgJbs1ch1szl8Op8pbSjzt7oWQdVdJ4qCXASVYgxhu3pDdyp6vgWk= > =z96o > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >
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