On Sat, 2022-04-02 at 13:14 +0000, Peter Stuge wrote:
> Michael Niewöhner wrote:
> > It feels this is the usual "but what if *someone* out there *needs/wants*
> > it?".
> 
> Not quite, it's "why delete it if it might work?". This is still
> ideological of course, so the question becomes what we find valuable.
> 
> I e.g. do not consider it at all valuable to only keep code for the
> last n Intel platform generations, in spite of knowing that only
> those have any value whatsoever for the vast majority of coreboot users.

Keeping platforms where there is no active interest is burden for those doing
tree / architecture / platform family wide changes. soc/intel is the best
example for that.

Also, often changes to common code (like soc/intel, again) have unforseeable
impact on untested platforms. Thus, it doesn't make *any* sense, keeping them
"just because".

Getting such changes merged without anyone being able to test a specific
platform that is being kept "just because" is nearly impossible. Take a look at
soc/intel/common changes, where xeon-sp and denverton regularly sled in.

> But coreboot is not a company and thus not restricted to only value
> market demand or otherwise proven utility. We can have other values
> and I do.
> 
> 
> > Does anyone know if the platform still works, at all?
> 
> Does anyone know that the platform *doesn't* work?

See above. I bet it's broken already. (Last publicly known test 2017, as I
alreay mentioned.)

> 
> Are there any practical concerns whatsoever?
> 
> 
> For me, at a very minimum both those questions must have a yes answer
> to qualify deletion.

No, IMO it's exactly the other way round. Prove that it still works.

> 
> Reducing scope is always satisfying but that's not a good reason to
> delete platforms.
> 
> It is of course very easy to manufacture practical concerns, but
> maybe that's a fair enough hurdle for arbitrary deletion...

Nothing in this discussion is "arbitrary". Reasons are quite clear, but they
seem to be ignored.

> //Peter


Michael
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