Hello again, Tom, I think you may have been looking at an inferior website. The best site to refer to is:
Ask About Ireland http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/ takes you to Griffiths Valuation Click on Griffiths Places and enter Milltown, Tyrone, Ardstraw and open in a new window – brings up the historic map that accompanied Griffiths Valuation (1858 for Ardstraw) that indicates farms and buildings extant at that time. In the right top corner is a slider and negotiate it to superimpose the modern map upon the same location; it will be possible to locate the remains (if any have survived) of the mill. Good luck, Len Swindley Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 ________________________________ From: Peter Kincaid <jwk...@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, June 1, 2018 5:38:56 AM To: CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List Cc: Len Swindley Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Moyle Cottage Lough Catherine is west of Newtownstewart and on its east side was Baronscourt - the mansion of the Earls/Marquis/Duke of Abercorn. Peter On Thursday, May 31, 2018, Tom Chambers <tchamber...@gmail.com<mailto:tchamber...@gmail.com>> wrote: Len, After looking closer at your reference to the Ardstraw corn mill it says townland Milltown, not the village Milltown. So I found townland Milltown which is by Strabane. My sister found this link to mills in Northern Ireland (pretty complete!) http://www.millsofnorthernireland.com After looking at that, I am uncertain where the Ardstraw corn mill would have been. For one thing, I could not find Lough Catherine. Ideas? Tom From: Len Swindley<mailto:len_swind...@hotmail.com> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2018 9:16 AM To: Tom Chambers<mailto:tchamber...@gmail.com>; CoTyroneList@cotyroneireland.com<mailto:CoTyroneList@cotyroneireland.com> Subject: RE: [CoTyroneMailingList] Moyle Cottage Yes Tom, John Chambers would have required another trade or calling to see the family through those months that the mill wasn’t working. Linen merchants were in abundance in the north-west and he would have traded at the market in Strabane. My 4th and 5th great grandfathers were linen merchants in Strabane c1760-1822; the linen industry waxed and waned every seven or so years and it was necessary to have other talents. My 4th g-grandfather was also a schoolmaster at Lifford, Co. Donegal in the 1790s. Enjoy your holiday in Newtownstewart. Len Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 From: Tom Chambers <tchamber...@gmail.com<mailto:tchamber...@gmail.com>> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2018 9:32:36 AM To: Len Swindley; CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List Subject: RE: [CoTyroneMailingList] Moyle Cottage Hello Len, Thanks for this exiting new information regarding John Chambers and the corn mill in Milltown. I see it is very close to Newtownstewart, so we will definitely check it out. You have a good memory, because John and Martha lived on Upper St (now Main Street) and had an office next door, I believe. In her interment papers, his daughter (Mary Ann) listed John’s occupation as Linen Merchant. So perhaps that was the purpose of the office. Sounds like John dabbled in other things! Yes, I will give a report with photos when I get back. We will be staying in Newtownstewart for two nights – much to explore in a relatively short time! Thanks again for all the time you spend on Tyrone ancestry. Tom Chambers From: Len Swindley<mailto:len_swind...@hotmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 2:26 AM To: CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List<mailto:CoTyroneList@cotyroneireland.com>; tchamber...@gmail.com<mailto:tchamber...@gmail.com> Subject: RE: [CoTyroneMailingList] Moyle Cottage Hello Tom, Here is a little further information that will be of benefit to you during tour trip to Newtownstewart, Ardstraw parish, Co. Tyrone: Ordnance Survey Memoirs of Ireland, Parish of County Tyrone 1, 1821, 1823, 1831-36 (Vol. 5) (eds) Day & McWilliams (Institute of Irish Studies, The Queen’s University of Belfast, (1990) PARISH OF ARDSTRAW; Memoir by John Fleming Tait & J. Hill Williams, January 1831 pp. 2-14 MILLS: Ardstraw corn mill, in the townland of Milltown, , in good repair, erected in 1740, repaired in 1835, proprietor John Chambers, breast wheel 14 feet by 14 inches, diameter of cog wheel 7 feet, fall of water 8 feet, single geared, wooden machinery; water supplied by the outlet of Lough Catherine, works only three months in the year (I recall in one of my previous items sent to you there being a reference to John Chambers occupying an office in Newtownstewart). I wish you an enjoyable foray in and around Newtownstewart and hope we can have a report of your findings and perhaps some photos? All good wishes, Len Swindley, Melbourne, Australia Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 From: CoTyroneList <cotyronelist-boun...@cotyroneireland.com<mailto:cotyronelist-boun...@cotyroneireland.com>> on behalf of Tom Chambers <tchamber...@gmail.com<mailto:tchamber...@gmail.com>> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 8:06:50 AM To: tchamber...@gmail.com<mailto:tchamber...@gmail.com>; CoTyroneList@cotyroneireland.com<mailto:CoTyroneList@cotyroneireland.com> Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Moyle Cottage While looking up the St Eugene’s graveyard, I came upon the boundaries of Moyle Glebe townland. Here is the link: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/irl/TYR/Newtownstewart/StEugene Also, a while back I discovered this link via google. http://www.parksandgardens.org/places-and-people/site/2355?preview=1 It is a government link. It makes reference to the location of “Moyle House”. The site doesn’t seem to know the significance of Moyle House. I checked and it is within Moyle Glebe, and it fits the description of where Sir Thomas Maclear was born. I believe it might have been where the Rev James Thomas Maclear (his father) lived. Here are some of the references to Moyle Cottage: It is where Sir Thomas Maclear (the Rev’s son) saw his first light. Was born. It is where Sir Thomas Maclear’s mother, Mary McGrath, died. Anyway, just a bit of trivia. When we go to Newtownstewart in June I will check it out. (promise not to trespass!) Oh by the way, the significance to me is that my 3rd Great Grandmother, Martha (Maclear) Chambers was a daughter of the Rev James Thomas Maclear. Meanwhile, I have the location of St Eugene’s Graveyard. Thanks Len and Carmen for your ideas on Moyle Cottage. Tom -- Best wishes! Peter Kincaid
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