Julia, Have referred to the Co Londonderry Flaxseed Bounty Lists (Spinning Wheel Premiums) of 1796 and find GILBERT CATHCART recorded in Desertlyn parish and JOHN & WILLIAM CATHCART residing in Desertmartin parish (both parishes adjoin Magherafelt). Also, WILLIAM KITHCART is recorded in Macosquin parish which adjoins Coleraine parish. Disappointingly the Flaxseed lists do not recorded the resident townlands of the recipients of the wheels, only the parish and the number of wheels awarded.
Trust this is interesting, Len Swindley ----- Original Message ----- From: "JH Todd" <[email protected]> To: "CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List" <[email protected]> Cc: "Boyd Gray" <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> Sent: Thu, 21 Jul 2022 15:26:24 -0700 Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Help with ancestral sites County Tyrone Len, Thank you for the suggestion. Thank you also for looking at the 1631 Muster Rolls of Ulster Julia On Jul 11, 2022, at 5:27 AM, Len Swindley via CoTyroneList <[email protected] [1]> wrote: Julia, The information you possess re. your family is very detailed and predates records generally referred to by family historians. Perhaps the records of the Registry of Deeds in Dublin could be essential to your research and offer proof to support recollections of previous generations? I have had a quick look at the 1631 Muster Rolls of Ulster and there are no Cathcarts recorded in either Cos Londonderry or Tyrone. Len ----- Original Message ----- From: "CoTyroneIreland.com [2] Mailing List" <[email protected] [3]> To: <[email protected] [4]>, "CoTyroneIreland.com [5] Mailing List" <[email protected] [6]> Cc: "JH Todd" <[email protected] [7]> Sent: Sat, 9 Jul 2022 17:32:59 -0700 Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: Help with ancestral sites County Tyrone Boyd, I want to see if I can locate the inn that the Marshall family had in Pomeroy in 1839. As well as the home Gabriel and Hester Marshall Cathcart lived in from perhaps their marriage in 1839 to I don’t know when. Perhaps I don’t have a complete understanding of what the Griffiths Valuation tells me. I’d like to see if we can locate Spring Lane Farm, County Derry as well as The Grange. These are mentioned in two family narratives. These documents are typed and probably have been transcribed from handwritten documents written in 1934 and 1907. So the place name spellings might be incorrect. Three Cathcart brothers came to Ireland - possibly in 1611 1 - One brother settled at Glen Leary near Coleraine; this was rented land William Cathcart, cousin of James Cathcart (son of Gilbert and Margaret married 1765) rented the land at the “time of his cousin James” “last of the Glen Leary Cathcarts”, Nancy Cathcart was living there in 1883 and lived at the “old house” 2 - another brother at Ballybay, County Monaghan - “nothing is known of the Ballybay Cathcarts" 3 - Another brother at the Grange near Maghearfelt – This is my direct line - - John Cathcart had 3 sons. Gilbert and two others. The two unnamed sons inherited the Grange. Gilbert purchased Spring Lane Farm in about 1765 when he married Margaret Steele - See notes below about The Grange and Spring Lane Farm There’s a cemetery with Cathcart “kin” at Kilcrone Glen [is this Kilcronaghan?] near Tobermore, County Derry (Is this the Kilcronaghan Parish Churchyard?) Spring Lane Farm, near Magherafelt, County Derry A family narrative in my possession says Gilbert Cathcart bought Spring Lane Farm about 1765 when he married Margaret Steele (Skiel/Skill/Steil) Spring Lane is near Magherafelt and had 35 Irish acres. The house supposedly predated the Cathcarts, perhaps back to 1611 The Grange Gilbert Cathcart’s parents and uncles had the Grange. As of 1883 Samuel Cathcart of Belfast still owned half the Grange property and Samuel’s sister was living there. The other half of the Grange was inherited by Marie Cathcart, a niece of Gilbert Cathcart. A daughter of Marie’s was living there in 1883. So - that’s what I’m trying to locate. Thank you to all the kind people who have responded. I think it’s time I explore hiring someone to help me pursue this further. Thanks for everyone’s help. Julia On Jul 9, 2022, at 2:31 PM, Boyd Gray via CoTyroneList <[email protected] [8]> wrote: So, if you have the GV, which gives you the "ancestral sites" which you asked for, in County Tyrone, what is it you are looking actually for, Julia? https://www.facebook.com/westulstergenealogy/ [9] http://familytrees.genopro.com/boydgray26/Boyd/ [10] On Sat, 9 Jul 2022 at 22:14, JH Todd via CoTyroneList <[email protected] [11]> wrote: Thank you. I do have Griffiths Valuation. Good suggestion to visit the local post offices On Jul 7, 2022, at 12:19 PM, Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList <[email protected] [12]> wrote: Have you tried Griffiths Valuation to see if you could locate family farms. If you can get close you could then visit local post offices and they might help locate relatives ( worked for me when I went). Sent from the all new AOL app for Android [13] On Thu, Jul 7, 2022 at 13:59, JH Todd via CoTyroneList <[email protected] [14]> wrote: I am looking for someone who can help me pinpoint ancestral sites in County Tyrone and County Derry for an upcoming trip in Fall 2022. Surnames are Cathcart, Marshall, Alexander, Cousley, Steele My Great, great grandfather John Marshall Cathcart was born in either Cookstown or Pomeroy March 11, 1842. He came to United States about 1860. His parents are Gabriel Cathcart (born 1817) and Hester Marshall Cathcart (born 1818). Hester’s widowed mother, Letitia Marshall, was an innkeeper in Pomeroy in 1839. Gabriel Cathcart was living near Magherafelt in 1839 when he and Hester Marshall married. The Cathcart, Cousley, and Steele families are also associated with Springlane Farm, Ballymuckleheany, County Derry. Sarah Alexander, my great great grandmother, born in either Pomeroy or Belfast, joined a brother or uncle in the United States. There she married John Marshall Cathcart. Is there a local person who can help me with local sites? Connections with cousins would be a bonus. 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