Thank you Len. It’s highly likely most of these Cathcarts are in my line.
Julia > On Jul 21, 2022, at 8:42 PM, Len Swindley via CoTyroneList > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Julia, > > Have referred to the Co Londonderry Flaxseed Bounty Lists (Spinning Wheel > Premiums) of 1796 and find GILBERT CATHCART recorded in Desertlyn parish and > JOHN & WILLIAM CATHCART residing in Desertmartin parish (both parishes adjoin > Magherafelt). Also, WILLIAM KITHCART is recorded in Macosquin parish which > adjoins Coleraine parish. Disappointingly the Flaxseed lists do not recorded > the resident townlands of the recipients of the wheels, only the parish and > the number of wheels awarded. > > Trust this is interesting, > Len Swindley > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > "JH Todd" <[email protected]> > > To: > "CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List" <[email protected]> > Cc: > "Boyd Gray" <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> > Sent: > Thu, 21 Jul 2022 15:26:24 -0700 > Subject: > Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Help with ancestral sites County Tyrone > > > Len, Thank you for the suggestion. Thank you also for looking at the 1631 > Muster Rolls of Ulster > > Julia > > On Jul 11, 2022, at 5:27 AM, Len Swindley via CoTyroneList > <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > Julia, > > The information you possess re. your family is very detailed and predates > records generally referred to by family historians. Perhaps the records of > the Registry of Deeds in Dublin could be essential to your research and offer > proof to support recollections of previous generations? > > I have had a quick look at the 1631 Muster Rolls of Ulster and there are no > Cathcarts recorded in either Cos Londonderry or Tyrone. > > Len > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > "CoTyroneIreland.com <http://cotyroneireland.com/> Mailing List" > <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> > > To: > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>, "CoTyroneIreland.com > <http://cotyroneireland.com/> Mailing List" > <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> > Cc: > "JH Todd" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > Sent: > Sat, 9 Jul 2022 17:32:59 -0700 > Subject: > [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: Help with ancestral sites County Tyrone > > > Boyd, > I want to see if I can locate the inn that the Marshall family had in Pomeroy > in 1839. > > > As well as the home Gabriel and Hester Marshall Cathcart lived in from > perhaps their marriage in 1839 to I don’t know when. > > Perhaps I don’t have a complete understanding of what the Griffiths Valuation > tells me. > > I’d like to see if we can locate Spring Lane Farm, County Derry as well as > The Grange. These are mentioned in two family narratives. These documents are > typed and probably have been transcribed from handwritten documents written > in 1934 and 1907. So the place name spellings might be incorrect. > > Three Cathcart brothers came to Ireland - possibly in 1611 > > > 1 - One brother settled at Glen Leary near Coleraine; this was rented land > > > William Cathcart, cousin of James Cathcart (son of Gilbert and > Margaret married 1765) rented the land at the “time of his cousin James” > > > “last of the Glen Leary Cathcarts”, Nancy Cathcart was living there in 1883 > and lived at the “old house” > > > 2 - another brother at Ballybay, County Monaghan - “nothing is known of the > Ballybay Cathcarts" > > > 3 - Another brother at the Grange near Maghearfelt – This is my direct line - > - John Cathcart had 3 sons. Gilbert and two others. The two unnamed sons > inherited the Grange. Gilbert purchased Spring Lane Farm in about 1765 when > he married Margaret Steele - See notes below about The Grange and Spring Lane > Farm > > There’s a cemetery with Cathcart “kin” at Kilcrone Glen [is this > Kilcronaghan?] near Tobermore, County Derry (Is this the Kilcronaghan Parish > Churchyard?) > > > Spring Lane Farm, near Magherafelt, County Derry > > A family narrative in my possession says Gilbert Cathcart bought Spring Lane > Farm about 1765 when he married Margaret Steele (Skiel/Skill/Steil) Spring > Lane is near Magherafelt and had 35 Irish acres. The house supposedly > predated the Cathcarts, perhaps back to 1611 > > The Grange > > > Gilbert Cathcart’s parents and uncles had the Grange. As of 1883 Samuel > Cathcart of Belfast still owned half the Grange property and Samuel’s sister > was living there. The other half of the Grange was inherited by Marie > Cathcart, a niece of Gilbert Cathcart. A daughter of Marie’s was living there > in 1883. > > So - that’s what I’m trying to locate. Thank you to all the kind people who > have responded. I think it’s time I explore hiring someone to help me pursue > this further. > > Thanks for everyone’s help. > > Julia > > > On Jul 9, 2022, at 2:31 PM, Boyd Gray via CoTyroneList > <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > So, if you have the GV, which gives you the "ancestral sites" which you asked > for, in County Tyrone, what is it you are looking actually for, Julia? > > https://www.facebook.com/westulstergenealogy/ > <https://www.facebook.com/westulstergenealogy/> > > http://familytrees.genopro.com/boydgray26/Boyd/ > <http://familytrees.genopro.com/boydgray26/Boyd/> > > > On Sat, 9 Jul 2022 at 22:14, JH Todd via CoTyroneList > <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > Thank you. I do have Griffiths Valuation. Good suggestion to visit the local > post offices > > > On Jul 7, 2022, at 12:19 PM, Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList > <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > Have you tried Griffiths Valuation to see if you could locate family farms. > If you can get close you could then visit local post offices and they might > help locate relatives ( worked for me when I went). > > Sent from the all new AOL app for Android > <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.aol.mobile.aolapp> > On Thu, Jul 7, 2022 at 13:59, JH Todd via CoTyroneList > <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > I am looking for someone who can help me pinpoint ancestral sites in County > Tyrone and County Derry for an upcoming trip in Fall 2022. > Surnames are Cathcart, Marshall, Alexander, Cousley, Steele > > My Great, great grandfather John Marshall Cathcart was born in either > Cookstown or Pomeroy March 11, 1842. He came to United States about 1860. His > parents are Gabriel Cathcart (born 1817) and Hester Marshall Cathcart (born > 1818). Hester’s widowed mother, Letitia Marshall, was an innkeeper in Pomeroy > in 1839. Gabriel Cathcart was living near Magherafelt in 1839 when he and > Hester Marshall married. The Cathcart, Cousley, and Steele families are also > associated with Springlane Farm, Ballymuckleheany, County Derry. > > Sarah Alexander, my great great grandmother, born in either Pomeroy or > Belfast, joined a brother or uncle in the United States. There she married > John Marshall Cathcart. > > Is there a local person who can help me with local sites? 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