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advice in this forum.]----

I'd like to second Dave's observations, and also ask where you've been on 
this list for the past several years?  If you've been so concerned, why
have 
we never heard from you before?

Besides, the problems you describe are hardly unique to 'Coupes.  It is
the 
fate of any old machine.  Those of use who are into the preservationist 
thing understand this, and do our best to look after our machines well.
In 
my experience, the most deadly thing to any old plane is poor maintenance.

If you are cheesed off because you bought an old airplane, and it needed 
work, well, I'm very sorry for you.  But I'll bet if you'd bought an old 
Cub, or a Luscombe, or and Aeronca, or whatever, you would have run the
same 
risk.  Many of the disgruntled former owners I've run into bought a $5,000

airplane thinking they'd gotten a *real bargain* that they could fix up
and 
fly on the cheap.  Sorry buddy, no such thing.

There's no conspiracy here.  We look after old planes the best we can.  
Sorry if you had a bad experience, but personally, I'll pay more attention

to what I can find in NTSB reports than somebody who doesn't have the guts

to use his or her own name.

Leslie Holbrook
Alon A2 N161LH (Flying Colors #1)
Chester, CT 3B9

>From: david abrams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: [COUPERS]  THE ERCOUPE TRUTH
>Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 12:59:29 +0000
>
>----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before following any

>advice in this forum.]----
>
>Dear TT,
>
>I might take you more seriously if:
>
>1) You did not hide behind anonymity.  In general I ignore anyone who is
>afraid to identify themself.  Why should I trust someone who is
>unwilling to be known for their opinions?  What are you hiding?
>
>2) You did not make obviously false statements like "an unbiased
>opinion".  Of course your opinion is biased.  You state your bias in
>your message.  My bias is different and I willingly not only admit my
>bias, but explain the reasons for it.
>
>Clearly we all are entitled to our opinions but they have far more
>weight with me when the person making the opinion identifies him/herself
>(hey, for all I know you are a plant from the Short Wing Piper Club to
>drum up membership over there <g>) and when we own up to our biases.
>
>You apparently are afraid to do either.
>
>Good luck with your crusade.
>
>David Abrams
>
>
>
>TRUTH TELLER wrote:
> > We concerned former and current Ercoupe owners now have our own
> > organization.  Our main hope for this new list is to get to potential
> > owners before they purchase so that they may receive an unbiased
opinion
> >
> > regarding the Ercoupe.  Also we hope to encourage new AD's to address
> > the fact that this ancient aluminum plane could have corrosion hiding
in
> >
> > numerous invisible areas where pieces are riveted together.  We
estimate
> >
> > that not more that 20 or 30 Ercoupe have ever had these pieces
> > disassembled.  You can join by sending a blank Email to
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]  We hope to get the new list in the
> > search engines soon so that new owners may receive factual,
> > unopinionated information regarding the record of this plane.  This
> > plane had problems when it was newer.  Now it is almost 60 years old!
> > We feel that the Ercoupe community is not properly addressing concerns
> > regarding age-related issues.





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