58 TIAS?  According to my FAA approved airplane flight manual, that's the
stall
speed of the Coupe.  Now, if you've been following past discussion, you'll
know
that a Coupe don't stall.  So, 58 TIAS?  That's fall out of the sky speed.
You
say you climb out at that speed?  I say you fall out of the sky.  It's a
good
thing you didn't get together with the beautiful young woman.  It wouldn't
have
worked.  She obviously had more brains than you had.  I cut my teeth
flying the
mountains in the west.  Unless I'm headed for a cliff, or tree, I'll take
best
rate over best angle any day.

Larry

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> I believe the number is 58 Mph and no it's not for the first ten feet
its all
> the way to however high it takes to clear the obstacle.  Those of us
blessed
> with mountain flying know this especially when the temperatures here in
the
> West often exceed 110.  The best rate as I recall is 68, to climb the
most in
> a given time.
>
> I once met a beautiful gal, also a coupe owner, who I wish was part of
my
> life but I destroyed that possibility when forced to threaten to smash
her
> pretty face in, when she almost killed us in "the coupe" at
Truckee-Tahoe
> airport some years ago.  No, I'm not a violent guy but she left me no
choice
> when she kept grabbing the yoke and pushing forward.  I had asked if she
had
> ever done any mountain flying and she said yes, well mountains to her
meant
> 2,500 feet in the Connecticut/Vermont area.
>
> I had flown in from Redding and had plenty of fuel to make the short hop
to
> Santa Rosa to drop her off.  I hadn't seen her in some time and had even
> brought flowers.
>
> What came after the takeoff can best be described as sheer terror on my
part.
>  I have flown off much shorter strips on hotter days with much heavier
loads
> (she probably only weighs 120 at most).  I had told her specifically
that we
> would be climbing out at best angle of climb and to enjoy the scenery.
The
> runway is 6-7000 feet and we lifted off OK and were climbing OK, which
means
> about 100 FPM at 60 MPH.  She jammed the yoke forward at about 50 feet
in the
> air and we lost all of that and crossed the airport boundary at perhaps
7
> feet, headed west.  I glared at her and of course pulled it back to
climb.  I
> nursed it back to maybe 200 feet when she again pushed the nose over and
I
> swatted her hand and again began to climb.  She pushed again and that's
when
> I doubled up my fist and shook it very close to her face in a very
menacing
> manner.  We lost all the altitude I had managed to gain and literally
flew
> through the main street of town and turned around a point of the
fountain at
> the end of the dead-end street as I recall.  She, the coupe owner
stabilized,
> and didn't speak to me again.  We re-crossed the airport at 500 AGL and
then
> headed west for an otherwise uneventful flight.  I won the battle
against
> death but lost the fair lady in so doing.  Damn, she is so beautiful
too.
>
> Yes, you may easily fly the coupe with a properly calibrated airspeed at
60
> quite safely despite what some may think.  I have a friend whose total
runway
> was 900 feet and he's made over 2500 night landings there in his Ercoupe
180.
>  He has a 3-light radio-activated laser beam to follow.  He does keep
all 3
> struts over extended.  Me I fly off the first 4-500 feet quite well and
enjoy
> the precise power-on patterns you must fly to do it well.  If you want
to fly
> in the West you better learn to fly at 60 MPH

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