well, yeah, these things did spring to this 
        particular mind. however, the filesystem has
        given no other signs of corruption. i do treat
        the box rather roughly, it's running a bunch
        of other crap, and i had some trouble with
        spamd just dying from time to time, so i ripped
        that out... had a little strangeness happen
        after an 'apt-get upgrade'.

        i agree that the permissions are sufficient 
        for pop3d to send the file to the client. there
        was another file that i didn't include that 
        had no read bits set, which was most likely
        the culprit.

        i'm almost certain that this isn't a courier
        problem at this stage, but thankyou (and mrsam)
        for your input :)

        regards,
        henry

On Thu, Sep 11, 2003 at 10:01:31AM -0700, Gordon Messmer wrote:
> henry j. mason wrote:
> >     something i should have done a while ago - i went
> >     and looked at the permissions of the files in the
> >     maildir. suprise! i found a couple of messages with
> >     strange permissions:
> >
> >-r--rwx---    1 jenn     mail         8535 Sep 10 01:05 
> >1063170330.13429.c3po.futureconsortium.com:2,
> >
> >     hmmmm... any ideas what could be changing the message
> >     permissions like that?
> 
> A really messed up delivery agent, or filesystem corruption spring to 
> mind.  Certainly nothing that's working correctly.  However, even 
> without write permission to the file, courier's POP server should have 
> been able to send it to the client.
> 
> 
> 
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