I'd like to take the opportunity to point out the difference between Open Source, and Free Software. http://www.fsf.org/licensing/essays/free-software-for-freedom.html " The fundamental difference between the two movements is in their values, their ways of looking at the world. For the Open Source movement, the issue of whether software should be open source is a practical question, not an ethical one. As one person put it, "Open source is a development methodology; free software is a social movement." For the Open Source movement, non-free software is a suboptimal solution. For the Free Software movement, non-free software is a social problem and free software is the solution."
I think that Co-working in more aligned with the concept of Free Software, than simply open source. (as i was typing this, i thought of the analogy coworking is to day offices and shared office suites what free software is to open source). While the co-working concept may be an "open source" concept in that it is freely traded and improved upon by others, (and you could not really call something like coworking "free software" people would just look at you funny), when we start talking about software, I think it behooves us to use the more accurate terminology. I am not trying to start any deep philosophical (or worse, religious!) discussion here about whether or not the CW movement religiously adheres to the tenets of GNU and the FSF, I just want to make sure that people know that there is a difference between Open Source software and Free Software, and use the right term for what they are talking about. On 10/22/07, Raimo van der Klein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi, > > I just wanted to add that we (Tribeminds in the Netherlands) have a > similar structure planned as Tara. > > Below I would like to share our Purpose Statement: > To support independents and entrepeneurs in... > 1. Finding shared minds > 2. Finding great projects > 3. Finding a great place to work > ...by facilitating a network and connecting all stakeholders in a > green way > > You see we need to connect the people around 3 objects: the place, the > project and the network(people) > > More information on our project will be shared coming weeks. Have a > peek preview at www.tribeminds.nl (we still need to change alot on > this site haha) > > Talk soon! > > > > On Oct 21, 6:45 pm, "Jacob Sayles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Where did this go? Eva, did you open source your ruby app? > > Jacob Sayles > > Office Nomads > > Seattle, WA > > > > On 4/30/07, Tara Hunt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hey Alex, > > > > > I think you were just appointed the person to help guide this. ;) > > > > > T > > > > > On 4/30/07, Alex Hillman < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > If you're going Open Source (everyone), consider > > > >https://www.bountysource.com/instead of SourceForge. > > > > > > Same functions as sourceforge as far as project wiki, documentation, > > > > task management, and source control...plus it's built on > rails....plus plus > > > > there's a whole open source economy around task-driven development. > You can > > > > monetize feature requests, enticing developers to contribute to your > > > > project. > > > > > > The site is run by a couple of friends of mine, it's a trustworthy > site > > > > and a good way to support the economy in Opensville. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Alex > > > > > > On 4/30/07, Tara Hunt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > This is all amazing. > > > > > > > Chris and I visited Eva and David at CubeSpace in Portland last > week, > > > > > which was awesome. Great people and a very well-run, nice space. > In order to > > > > > run something of their scale (what was it? 13,000 ft2?), they have > to have > > > > > some seriously kickass software in place. :) I'm really pumped > about getting > > > > > it out there. > > > > > > > And Rich...this sounds great. > > > > > > > > If you guys need any licensing help, just ask. I'm sure there are > > > > > quite a few Open Source experts on the list! :) > > > > > > > Perhaps we should carve out a space at SourceForge? I don't really > > > > > know how it works, but... > > > > > > > T > > > > > > > On 4/30/07, Rich Vázquez < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > One other consideration for organizing folks that some may take > for > > > > > > granted - in our Time Bank project we'll be releasing, we are > also opening > > > > > > up the documentation (policies and manuals) to Creative Commons > or similar > > > > > > licenses are start-ups to have access to some of the structure, > ideas > > > > > > address and forms, etc. > > > > > > -- > > > > > > --- > > > > > > Rich Vázquez, CISSP > > > > > >www.opensourcecurrency.org > > > > > > > > On 4/30/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > CubeSpace is a co-working site in Portland, Oregon and we have > a > > > > > > > proprietary database built in Ruby on Rails. We are meeting > with > > > > > > > out > > > > > > > developer on Wednesday to make sure there are no CubeSpace > > > > > > > security > > > > > > > issues in sharing what we have, but assuming he gives us a > > > > > > > thumbs-up, > > > > > > > we will be happy to share it with this group. > > > > > > > > > We designed it to track reservation and usages, as well as to > > > > > > > serve as > > > > > > > our point-of-sale interface. I will warn you it is buggy and > > > > > > > temperamental and clearly needs more work, but the relational > > > > > > > database > > > > > > > structure is sound. We are eager to see what you all can do > with > > > > > > > it! > > > > > > > > > -Eva > > > > > > > Eva Sari Schweber > > > > > > > Chief Cat Herder > > > > > > > CubeSpace, Your WorkSpace Community > > > > > > > 622 SE Grand Avenue > > > > > > > Portland, OR 97214 > > > > > > > (503) 206-3299 Voice > > > > > > > (503) 206-3302 Fax > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Email > > > > > > >www.CubeSpacePDX.com > > > > > > > > > On Mar 26, 10:19 am, "Samuel Rose" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > Louis, I also plugged in a tool under "New Tool proposal" > that > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > coworkers may be interested in: an open source application > to > > > > > > > handle > > > > > > > > money pooling, revenue sharing, expensetracking, and revenue > > > > > > > sharetracking. Feel free to remove of course if this is out of > place, but I > > > > > > > > thought coworkers might find the functions of such an > > > > > > > application > > > > > > > > useful. > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 25, 9:20 pm, "Louis Montagne" < > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Tara, > > > > > > > > > to follow up on the discussions we had in Austin, I've > created > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > pagehttps://coworking.pbwiki.com/CoworkingTools. We are > > > > > > > starting to > > > > > > > > > work on the core social networking features. (with the > help of > > > > > > > a micro > > > > > > > > > barcamp). Perhaps we can draft a few things with Alex & > Jacob > > > > > > > ? > > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > > > > Louis. > > > > > > > > > > > On 3/23/07, Tara Hunt < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi John, > > > > > > > > > > > > Chris and I and our project team have actually seen your > > > > > > > spec. It's pretty > > > > > > > > > > cool, but totally doesn't do what we are trying to > > > > > > > accomplish with ours. We > > > > > > > > > > spoke to Noel about this. Basically, you are approaching > > > > > > > your web site from > > > > > > > > > > a facility management angle and we are approaching ours > from > > > > > > > a coworking > > > > > > > > > > network of spaces angle. Yours = functional (and really > > > > > > > functional for your > > > > > > > > > > space in particular...I don't know how many spaces are > > > > > > > commoditizing the > > > > > > > > > > desks to the level of fine detail that you are) and Ours > = > > > > > > > promotional & > > > > > > > > > > social. > > > > > > > > > > > > Our roadmap looks like: > > > > > > > > > > > > Phase 1 - network the spaces themselves (and give oodles > of > > > > > > > > > > information/support on setting spaces up) > > > > > > > > > > Phase 2 - network the coworkers (to be able to create ad > hoc > > > > > > > project teams > > > > > > > > > > like:http://www.programmermeetdesign< > http://www.programmermeetdesigner.comdoesbut> > > > > > > > er.comdoesbut <http://www.programmermeetdesigner.comdoesbut> > with > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > coworking kudos/reputation system built in) > > > > > > > > > > Phase 3 - more space management tools as per the demands > of > > > > > > > the network (so, > > > > > > > > > > as we watch these spaces emerge and issues come up, we > can > > > > > > > generalize them > > > > > > > > > > into a tool and open up an API, perhaps, to make it > > > > > > > extensible and > > > > > > > > > > personalize it) > > > > > > > > > > Phase 4 - getting into more services...probably less > about > > > > > > > the web site > > > > > > > > > > > > Sort of growing with the movement and creating the tools > to > > > > > > > help everyone > > > > > > > > > > along. > > > > > > > > > > > > I think, though, down the road, we should definitely > work on > > > > > > > how these fit > > > > > > > > > > together. It would be very helpful for all involved. > > > > > > > > > > > > Tara > > > > > > > > > > > > On 3/23/07, 116westhouston < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > not sure anyone is aware - i have been writing a > > > > > > > functional spec for a > > > > > > > > > > > 'co-working facility management' web site, i have sent > a > > > > > > > few versions > > > > > > > > > > > to noel hidalgo and will publish this to the group > > > > > > > soon...my space is > > > > > > > > > > >http://116westhouston.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > john > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 23, 8:31 am, "Nate W" < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Here in New York we have the "Freelancer's Union" > which > > > > > > > essentially > > > > > > > > > > > > works to get health care for those who would be > > > > > > > coworking (as long as > > > > > > > > > > > > you're billing about 20 hours a week). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Partnering with an organization like this -- one > which > > > > > > > exists to > > > > > > > > > > > > navigate the healthcare industry for freelancers and > > > > > > > single-person > > > > > > > > > > > > shops -- may be the best bet, as "unionizing and > getting > > > > > > > health care" > > > > > > > > > > > > is a lot easier said than done. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, supporting something like the Freelancer's > Union > > > > > > > helps extend > > > > > > > > > > > > the movement beyond the walls of coworking spaces > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nate Westheimer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 21, 10:33 pm, "Tara Hunt" < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yep. Agreed. These would be 'add on' services for > > > > > > > those coworkers and > > > > > > > > > > spaces > > > > > > > > > > > > > in need. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > T > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 3/21/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] < > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> We will also be looking into the > administration > > > > > > > of really crucial > > > > > > > > > > > > > > things like: - affordable healthcare - green > > > > > > > certification for the > > > > > > > > > > spaces > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You mean as part of thesoftware? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Being from Montréal (we haven't opened yet) and > > > > > > > knowing Paris is a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > very promising one, just to give two examples, > I'd > > > > > > > suggest keeping > > > > > > > > > > > > > > things like healthcare if not completely > separate at > > > > > > > least options > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > easy to "turn off", it doesn't work the same > around > > > > > > > the world and in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some places we actually don't need it ;) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Same thing for Green business and probably most > > > > > > > programs, rules and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regulations vary country to country. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Patrick > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tara > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > tara 'miss rogue' hunt > > > > > > > > > > > > > agent provocateur > > > > > > > > > > > > > Citizen Agency (www.citizenagency.com) > > > > > > > > > > > > > blog:www.horsepigcow.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > phone: 415-694-1951 > > > > > > > > > > > > > fax: 415-727-5335 > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > ... > > > > read more » > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. 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