Fantastic thread!  thanks to everyone who responded I have tried to absorb
what was said and I will hopefully put this advice to good use.  I'm going
to look into community interaction and think about hosting/participating in
democamps as well as finding out more about "jelly" sessions.

On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 3:48 PM, turbo2ltr <turbo2...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> As someone who "put the cart before the horse", I would agree with
> Alex, don't worry about the business plan at this point, get the
> people first, then the business plan will define itself.  I made this
> mistake and now I have a space that is open but has no users (yet).
>
> -Mike
>
>
> On Feb 25, 10:36 am, Matthew Wettergreen <mwettergr...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>  > This coworking group exists because we've all learned a wealth of
> > knowledge from each other and have a firm commitment to the greater
> > community to in turn help everyone achieve success and sustainability.
> > Over the past three years (congratulations everyone), this sharing has
> > cemented the methodology for opening a successful coworking space.
> > Followed properly these steps are financially low-risk and move at the
> > pace of the community's needs. By jumping steps or opening a coworking
> > space in a vacuum you're making a high-risk move that could result in
> > something nobody wants, financial loss or worse, the closing of your
> > space.
> >
> > These low-risk steps start with going out into the community and
> > talking about coworking but mostly listening (this is something that
> > Alex mentions again and again as being important) which will help you
> > discover what the needs and desires of the community are.  If there is
> > no community then you build one through jellys or meetups. Once you
> > have the support of the community the next low-risk step would be
> > getting a commitment (not necessarily financial immediately) out of
> > the people who will become your anchors when you find a space. The
> > next low-risk step would be to document your search for a space based
> > on the stated needs of the community. With the community behind an
> > idea you're less likely to take a financial or business bath when you
> > open the space. Additional low-risk steps that relate to financials
> > would be to build based on the usage of your community, ie not
> > spending money on superfluous equipment until demonstrated need.
> >
> > Low-risk steps and high transparency to your community and to the
> > google coworking group are essential for all of this. By doing this
> > you can immediately avoid problems like an empty space or thinking you
> > need an advertising or marketing budget to make your space successful.
> > By dropping a space into the landscape and saying "it's here, everyone
> > come" you're not only taking high-risk but you're working backwards
> > from a PROVEN methodology that will allow you to open with a path
> > towards success and a leg up towards sustainability. The most
> > successful coworking spaces have been the ones who have been the most
> > open with their process to both of these communities from the
> > beginning.Tara and Alex and Jacob and others were incredibly helpful
> > in the infancy of Caroline Collective preventing us from taking
> > financial or community missteps that could result in reduced success
> > for the space.
> >
> > I dont' think anyone's arguing against forming a strategy but forming
> > a business plan for a coworking space before having a community behind
> > it might be putting the cart in front of the horse. A business plan if
> > eventually needed, should be simple because you can cull from
> > discussions with the community: the ones who will ultimately utilize
> > the coworking space, financially contribute, provide sweat equity and
> > ultimately evangelize the virtues of coworking. From another
> > standpoint, you already have a dynamic business plan and business
> > advisors: this google group, several posts by members of the coworking
> > community and the coworking wiki. There's enough information in those
> > places as well as the wealth of resources from the voices on the
> > google group that can help overcome any problem that people will come
> > up against. But this is only if you are open and transparent about
> > these problems.
> >
> > Matthew
> >
> > --
> > Matthew Wettergreen, Ph.D
> > coFounder - Caroline Collectivehttp://carolinecollective.cc
> >
> > cell: 713.825.4613
> > email: mwettergr...@gmail.com
> > twitter: organ_printerhttp://matthewwettergreen.com
>  > --
> >
> > On Feb 25, 9:59 am, Alex Hillman <dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Susan,
> > > Your point that every market is different is exactly the point I'm
> making:
> > > not that you should go in unplanned, but a traditional business plan
> > > template isn't going to properly serve a venture like this in my
> opinion.
> >
> > > The plan you described: *bullet points & flexible goals*, and I'll even
> go
> > > so far as to define a *mantra* or set of *core values,* is going to
> help you
> > > have the check points for making decisions along the way.
> >
> > > Planning is extremely important, and running your coworking space like
> a
> > > business is important for your sustainability.
> >
> > > Just be ready for that plan to change once new people enter the mix :)
> >
> > > -Alex
> >
> > > --
> > > -----
> > > --
> > > -----
> > > Alex Hillman
> > > im always developing something
> > > digital: a...@weknowhtml.com
> > > helpful:www.unstick.me
> > > visual:www.dangerouslyawesome.com
> > > local:www.indyhall.org
> >
> > > On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Susan Potter <
> >
> > > su...@acropolisproperties.com> wrote:
> > > > While I completely agree with Alex that walking in to a bank with
> financial
> > > > statements that show revenue already coming in is far better than
> going into
> > > > a bank with an idea, a business plan should be used a  tool by
> business
> > > > owners.  I am not sure about Alex's business/startup experiences, but
> as
> > > > someone who has started a number of ventures from scratch I have
> found
> > > > having a basic business plan (just in bullet point format for my own
> and
> > > > partner reference) to be very beneficial, especially when you have
> partners.
> > > >  You might be able to "wing it" by chance or because you have the
> right
> > > > connections, but if you don't  have connections on your side, basic
> > > > preparation is key no matter what business you want to start.
> >
> > > > There isn't just one exact model for a coworking space or any
> business idea
> > > > out there, there are multiple and every situation will likely be
> different.
> > > >  I am not suggestion you violate the notion that a coworking space is
> about
> > > > the people - not at all.
> >
> > > > Each market (in this case physical location and target audience) has
> > > > slightly different needs (i.e. in larger cities people might be
> > > > willing to travel 20 miles to a coworking space - in a small college
> town
> > > > that would NEVER fly without anything *very* different about the
> offering, I
> > > > don't know what though?).  Also while the target markets for all
> coworking
> > > > spaces might seem to be the exact same in every location, I don't
> think that
> > > > is true.  For example,  I know in some areas there are large numbers
> of tech
> > > > freelancers (e.g. SF bay area and Raleigh-Durham both places I have
> lived
> > > > and worked in before - not to mention Boston, DC metro, etc), whereas
> in
> > > > other areas the types of freelancers will be less tech more
> professionally
> > > > oriented (e.g. architects, lawyers, designers, etc.).  Having a plan
> to
> > > > target the specific target audiences that are relevant to your area
> is
> > > > definitely a good idea.  It helps you think through things like "who
> do I
> > > > really want to attract to my space to make it a better experience for
> all
> > > > involved", which creates a better overall ambiance and will be the
> backbone
> > > > of your longer-term success.
> >
> > > > Home grown spaces can work, in fact, many on this list have proved it
> can
> > > > work.  However, that does not mean planning and preparation don't go
> a long
> > > > way too.  I use business plans as a tool for organizing my thoughts
> and
> > > > addressing potential pitfalls before they show up.  Since leaving the
> bay
> > > > area I have steered away from VCs and only occasionally sought loans
> from
> > > > banks or private investors, but I now always "write" a business plan
> if for
> > > > no one else than for myself.  If you are using a business plan this
> way it
> > > > doesn't need to suck the soul out of a venture.
> >
> > > > Best,
> > > > Susan
> > > > --
> > > > Susan Potter
> > > > Collective Turf Coworking
> > > > Urbana, IL USA
> >
> > > > On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 9:19 AM, Alex Hillman <
> > > > dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > >> Trevor,
> > > >> Stop right there:
> > > >> You don't need a business plan just yet, you need some people. Those
> > > >> people will be your business plan.
> >
> > > >> Yes, you could walk into a bank with a 10 page document explaining
> how and
> > > >> what you are going to do with their money...or you could walk in
> with signed
> > > >> checks from 10 paying members and say "see, they're already willing
> to pay
> > > >> for it".
> >
> > > >> Developing the community before you think "business plan" is
> critical,
> > > >> because your business plan is likely to NOT jive with the people
> you're
> > > >> ultimately trying to reach.
> >
> > > >> There are some great recent posts about community development
> roadmaps,
> > > >> and I have one that's a little more abstract that I crafted after
> seeing
> > > >> MILK at the end of last year:
> >
> > > >>
> http://www.dangerouslyawesome.com/2008/12/22/a-roadmap-for-community-...
> >
> > > >> Good luck!
> >
> > > >> -Alex
> > > >> --
> > > >> -----
> > > >> --
> > > >> -----
> > > >> Alex Hillman
> > > >> im always developing something
> > > >> digital: a...@weknowhtml.com
> > > >> helpful:www.unstick.me
> > > >> visual:www.dangerouslyawesome.com
> > > >> local:www.indyhall.org
> >
> > > >> On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Trevor <trevord...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > >>> Hi everyone,
> >
> > > >>> My name is Trevor I live in Mississauga, Ontario which is very
> close
> > > >>> to Toronto for those of you who aren't familiar with the area.  I'm
> > > >>> relatively new to the concept of coworking but I'm so excited that
> > > >>> this exists.  I have been thinking about creating my own space and
> I
> > > >>> would like to start preparing a business plan. I don't really know
> how
> > > >>> to get started writing a business plan are there any good templates
> to
> > > >>> use?  Can anyone suggest a good starting place?
> >
>

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