You are welcome! The work bit has two motivations behind it: one is to keep costs down, but the more important motivation to is build a stronger sense of community.
On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Cheryl Jaycox < cheryl.cajservi...@gmail.com> wrote: > Tom, > Thank you, I love learning from others* hard labor,* The idea of helping > with the maintainence, etc, is a really fine idea! I am currently begining > to work with the colleges and Universities in the area, so the student > membership is a must, love the way you set that up too...This has been alot > of help filled with ideas! > CJay > > On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Tom Brandt <twbra...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> At Workantile we experimented with various pricing schemes, but settled >> on the following: >> >> Full member: $160/month. This comes with 24/7/365 access, ability to >> reserve conference rooms, ability to host events. It also comes with an >> expectation of work to help maintain the space, such as taking out the >> trash, cleaning up the kitchen, bathroom, helping with marketing, etc. >> Members can purchase a "get out of work" pass for an additional $70/month. >> >> Affiliate member: $25/month. This comes with one free day pass per month, >> plus the ability to purchase day passes at $10/day in sets of five passes. >> >> Student member: $35/month. This is the same as a full member, but the >> member must be currently enrolled in an accredited college or university, >> and is expected to make a presentation to the rest of the membership on >> whatever he or she is working that term. >> >> All members get an RFID key fob which they place next to a RFID reader to >> open the door. This way we can offer 24/7/365 access to the space for full >> members without handing out actual keys. For affiliate members, the RFID >> chip is activated only on days for which they have reserved a day pass. >> >> This seems to be working out well. People understand it and it is easy >> for us to administer. >> >> >> On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Cheryl Jaycox < >> cheryl.cajservi...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Chad, >>> Thank you for the detailed information, I feel the same way with some of >>> the pricing charts I have looked at...confusing.... I like the Basic >>> membership set up and will discuss this with the other core members. Since >>> you mentioned it on an adverage how many events does your space host a >>> month? To members only or do you open it up to anyone interested? >>> Thanks Chad, your post are always helpful...as always look forward to >>> your opinions and suggestions. >>> CJay >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Chad Ballantyne < >>> c...@thecreativespace.ca> wrote: >>> >>>> I go crossed-eyed looking at some rate chats with the hourly model! >>>> That head ache alone is worth any member staying a few hours over their >>>> monthly allotments, so we've kept is simple. 3 main membership rates and >>>> based off our $25/day (membership Fee) + $15/day ongoing >>>> . >>>> *Basic* = $25/mth -1 day a month in the space and access to all >>>> community events (get's their feet wet and we hope will translate into the >>>> next level of membership) >>>> Every day after that is $15/day (versions of this plan could be a 1 >>>> day/wk plan = $75/mth or 2 days per week = $100/mth. Some have applied for >>>> these since launching the Basic+day scenario >>>> >>>> *Lite Membership* = $180/mth = 3 days per week >>>> >>>> *FullTime* = $300/mth (27/7) This is the only rate that there's a >>>> better bargain - but we're re-thinking it now as Alex has said before >>>> Full-time Desks takes a desk "off the market" and therefore can only be >>>> rented once, as opposed to a flex desk which can be rent 3-4 times over as >>>> the membership won't use that desk at the same time. >>>> >>>> I'd encourage y'all to try the Basic Membership. Thanks again to Alex >>>> for the suggestion. >>>> Since we launched the package we've seen about a member a week sign up. >>>> It's not big bucks, but most grab it for the year ($275/year - $25 off if >>>> they pay for the 12 mths up front) And so the 8 that have signed up so far >>>> put $2200 in our bank account. We might see them one month and not the >>>> next but they attend our events to network, etc. Well worth the $25 >>>> >>>> Members can use all meeting space as part of their membership if it's a >>>> client meeting during the day and we just ask that they don't go over 2 >>>> hours per meeting. Some go a bit over, we let it ride and just monitor >>>> space usage for all members as to not have one or two monopolize the space. >>>> >>>> Meeting space for workshops, classes, clinics and events we charge >>>> hourly. >>>> >>>> Since The Creative Space is not our full-time job, we have to do >>>> everything we can to minimize the overhead and workload for administrating >>>> it all. >>>> Here's a summery of a few of the things we do to minimize the need for >>>> costly systems/apps, manpower, etc >>>> >>>> SImple membership plans >>>> Google cal for bookings/events >>>> Skype to inform members that "clients are here" (we have 2 floors so >>>> the upstairs peeps need some reception support) >>>> Members help gather trash for trash day and re-supply toiletries when >>>> their low. we just make sure the supply rooms are full >>>> Every brings indoor shoes or slippers (has cut down our sweeping >>>> mopping time drastically, especially during winter months - (Oh Canada - >>>> snow, slush, salt) >>>> MadMimi for news blasts >>>> >>>> >>>> Peace, >>>> >>>> Chad >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2012-01-14, at 9:11 AM, Alex Hillman wrote: >>>> >>>> Especially when just getting started, there's a lot of power in >>>> "keeping it simple". It's tempting and easy to create a membership to fit >>>> every person, down to half days and hourly. The problem I've seen with this >>>> is that it creates overhead both for you (in the fact that you need some >>>> way to keep track), as well as your members (they are always watching a >>>> clock to make sure they don't go over). >>>> >>>> Having spoken to people who've been members of both models, *membership >>>> * is preferred to be as simple as possible. The only thing that people >>>> really, really appreciate in granular hourly pricing is meeting space - >>>> which totally makes sense, it's rare to have half and full day meetings. >>>> >>>> I also like to think about this in terms of membership vs. renter. It's >>>> hard to become a community member an hour at a time - within that hour you >>>> need to do what you're there to do AND start to get to know people. Inside >>>> of a full day, there's far more opportunity for serendipity and social >>>> interactions to happen in addition to a productive work day. The people who >>>> have that full spectrum of experiences are the ones who tend to fall into >>>> the camp of community member. The ones who ONLY want a place to work and >>>> have no interest in community participation are welcome, of course, but >>>> tend to stick around for shorter durations. This also means lower >>>> retention, which means more resources spent on recruiting new butts into >>>> seats, and draining your time and money from focusing on the members you DO >>>> have. >>>> >>>> No right or wrong here, of course. As Rachel suggested - having people >>>> to ask how THEY would use the space is really helpful. The trick here is to >>>> ask, but not necessarily do exactly what they say. Sometimes people think >>>> they know what they want, but when it comes down to it, they have no clue >>>> because they've never had it before. The IDEA of hourly usage sounds great >>>> to somebody, but they end up not being the one who uses it. >>>> >>>> The Henry Ford quote "if I'd have giving people what they asked for, I >>>> would've built a faster horse" comes to mind. You have to have people who >>>> you can not only speak to, but who you can actually *understand* and >>>> develop your model around their needs, not just *what they say* their >>>> needs are. >>>> >>>> -Alex >>>> >>>> >>>> /ah >>>> indyhall.org >>>> coworking in philadelphia >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 1:42 AM, CAJ <cheryl.cajservi...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Rachel, >>>>> There are a four of us, which is where the discussion comes from. >>>>> There are diffrent ideas on the subject. So I thought I would bring >>>>> the topic here for feedback. Since this is a new concept that we are >>>>> just begining to push. We have the space which we consider phase one, >>>>> with two workstaions and 12 basically "hot seats" Phase two is a 3000 >>>>> sq ft renivated warehouse. We began by consideing a daily rate as well >>>>> as monthly memberships, but thought that people might be more >>>>> comfortable with hourly or even half day rate. >>>>> CJay >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 13, 4:43 am, rachel young <rac...@camaraderie.ca> wrote: >>>>> > Do you have some existing folks from your community that are >>>>> interested in >>>>> > joining together to form a space? If so, ask them and average out >>>>> their >>>>> > responses. They are the ones that will be paying after all. >>>>> > r. >>>>> > On Jan 13, 2012 12:03 AM, "CAJ" <cheryl.cajservi...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > > Coworking Group, >>>>> > >>>>> > > Planning coworking space.....Need feedback on hourly vs daily >>>>> rates. >>>>> > > We are in a rural/suburban area outside St.Louis and this is >>>>> indeed a >>>>> > > new concept for most businesses. The concept of coworking is >>>>> needed in >>>>> > > this community. Any suggestions? >>>>> > >>>>> > > -- >>>>> > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups >>>>> > > "Coworking" group. >>>>> > > To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. >>>>> > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> > > coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> > > For more options, visit this group at >>>>> > >http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "Coworking" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Coworking" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. >>>> >>>> >>>> Chad Ballantyne >>>> The Creative Space Director >>>> >>>> (705) 252-2423 >>>> www.thecreativespace.ca >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Coworking" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Cheryl Jaycox >>> Community Manager >>> Micro Office Suites & Business Center >>> The HIVE@44,Business Coworking Communty >>> Phone: 636-405-3130 >>> Cell: 314-800-4305 >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Coworking" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> twb >> member, Workantile Exchange <http://workantileexchange.com/> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Coworking" group. >> To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. >> > > > > -- > Cheryl Jaycox > Community Manager > Micro Office Suites & Business Center > The HIVE@44,Business Coworking Communty > Phone: 636-405-3130 > Cell: 314-800-4305 > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Coworking" group. > To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. > -- twb member, Workantile Exchange <http://workantileexchange.com/> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. 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