Hi all. @Kat, there is no double standard. As Alex said, he believes he might have crossed the line with using these threads to promote his webinar. He policed himself so there'd be no double standard. That said, he also contributes a ton to these threads.
Meanwhile, the random posting by Mr. Belykh was not backed up with (1) upfront clarification for his email; (2) any previous contributions; and (3) a Twitter account with zero followers or posts...all of this adds up to suspect...a sales solicitous. Jerome ______________ BLANKSPACES "work FOR yourself, not BY yourself" www.blankspaces.com 5405 Wilshire Blvd (2 blocks west of La Brea) Los Angeles, CA 90036 323.330.9505 (office) On Sep 16, 2012, at 6:39 PM, Kat Eversole-Jaramillo <kathlynjarami...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hey all ....not trying to go to war with our dangerously awesome > Alex....just saying what is good for some ought to be good for everyone. > Definitions of spam are not necessary. Pitching a product to sell to > coworking space founders in this forum is just that...whether sneaky or > blatant. Asking for forgivness rather then permission is not responsible. > This isn't the first time. I remember when your webinar was $350.... WOW! > Your invitation to the MasterClass is already out. Hope you have a blow out > event! The poor guy asking about space design who got his head bitten off > simply shed the light on the double standard in this forum. Kat > On Sep 16, 2012 6:18 PM, "Liu Yan" <liuyan.dat...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Alex, you have my full mental support across the ocean (and the > > continent)... > > > > Liu Yan > > > > > > On 2012-9-17, at 上午4:46, Alex Hillman wrote: > > > >> Kat, > >> > >> I'm not leaving this group behind as a contributor or a leader, I'll > >> always be here to help in every way that I can. That's my #1 priority. > >> > >> The course is a supplement for people who want more. Trust me that there's > >> no hidden agenda here, it's that simple. > >> > >> Like many others on this list, I absolutely love helping people, and will > >> give until my face falls off in a public forum that benefits more than > >> just the one person who's asking. > >> > >> What's changed over the years of giving advice is that a lot of people > >> have started seeking one-on-one advice. As often as possible, I've given > >> that away for free as well. But a few things have happened: > >> Not everybody is at the same level coming in. Some people need a LOT more > >> guidance beyond "advice", into the realm of consulting. > >> Many people ignore free advice. > >> I repeat myself a lot. A LOT. > >> The reason for the price of the course is because it's a TON of hours of > >> hands on work with the individuals who enroll, and there are now hundreds > >> of hours that have gone into building a teaching tool. Even ignoring the > >> time that it took to build the course, the total hands on time from me > >> over the four weeks is being sold at a fraction of my consulting rate. > >> > >> All of that said, I'm not leaving anybody behind now that I've built this > >> course, or suggesting that you can't kick ass without taking it. MANY > >> people were already kicking ass well before the beginning of September. > >> > >> But many aren't, and if they want the extra help on a fast-track, I can > >> provide an option that's sustainable and productive for them AND for me. > >> Win win. If someone takes the class and feels like they didn't get their > >> money's worth, I've screwed up somewhere else. > >> > >> Everyone still has to choose the option for themselves, there's no way > >> that I will try to force people to buy something they don't need. > >> > >> The most likely outcome of me having this course is that I'll have MORE > >> advice that I can openly share on this list because I now have a great > >> framework for creating new, better answers to questions and problems about > >> coworking & community building. > >> > >> BOTTOM LINE: > >> This list is for SHARING OPENLY and learning from each other, that's > >> always been my personal priority, and that's not going away. > >> > >> I made a mistake by sending direct sales emails to a list where I should > >> have known better, and thanks to some friendly reminders, I won't be doing > >> that any more and I'm genuinely sorry for my mis-step. > >> > >> None of the good stuff is going away, it's only getting better. > >> > >> -Alex > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> /ah > >> indyhall.org > >> coworking in philadelphia > >> build amazing communities: masterclass.indyhall.org > >> > >> On Sunday, September 16, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Kat CoBiz Coworking Vegas wrote: > >>> > >>> OMG! Seriously guys....let me give you a different outlook on this. We > >>> in the coworking world are looking for serious support, trying to get our > >>> message out, keep our doors open and build community. > >>> > >>> This kind of "you don't get to" conversation doesn't serve any of us. We > >>> look to you for leadership ALEX and we have given you that role and yet > >>> your $1,200 plus class seems untouchable to some of us needing real > >>> support today! "Masters rule and start-ups drool"! High School and I > >>> call B.S! > >>> > >>> Might I suggest to those who really want to support owners and catalysts, > >>> GET in contribution as that is what coworking is about...none of us > >>> should have to be subjected to this. It's time to Collaborate, Sustain > >>> this community, Have ACCESSIBILITY to information, Build this community > >>> and BE OPEN to supporting others! Most in this group understand this! If > >>> you don't....and/or you have a hidden agenda or decided you can monetize > >>> your experience at our expense, please terminate your membership to this > >>> group and seek life elsewhere... we are in the trenches and are not > >>> interested in being SOLD ANYTHING! > >>> > >>> Happy Sunday... Thanks for letting me share! > >>> > >>> Kat, Passionate Space Owner > >>> CoBiz Coworking Space ~ Las Vegas > >>> > >>> On Sunday, September 16, 2012 6:50:08 AM UTC-7, Alex Hillman wrote: > >>>> > >>>> This is a good time to bring up that I've realized that my Masterclass > >>>> sales announcements haven't been a good case of "leading by example", > >>>> and as a result you won't be seeing me post that kind of thing to the > >>>> list anymore. > >>>> > >>>> A longer note about that is coming soon - in the mean time, to anybody > >>>> reading, I'm sorry. > >>>> > >>>> -Alex > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> /ah > >>>> indyhall.org > >>>> coworking in philadelphia > >>>> build amazing communities: masterclass.indyhall.org > >>>> > >>>> On Sunday, September 16, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Adrienne N wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Alex, I agree on how will this info be used and shared back. > >>>>> > >>>>> Jerome, while I agree with you on most postings, I think you had a knee > >>>>> jerk reaction. > >>>>> > >>>>> We do allow coworking vendors on this forum (liquidspace, turnstone, > >>>>> etc) as their involvement and engagement is valuable to our discussion. > >>>>> Jerome, even your input as an architect is valuable to the discussion. > >>>>> But as long as its a true engagement and they provide constructive > >>>>> feedback through their roles in the industry. Our advertisement blasts > >>>>> I would agree are spam, but I would give this the benefit of the doubt > >>>>> as he's only asked for info (and annonomously given info at that). 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